DAO Weekly Meeting  #8
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DAO Weekly Meeting #8

Date
January 20, 2022
Timestamps
00:00 Intro/Agenda • 04:22 Beans of Poker Tournament • 03:20 NFT Giveaway Idea • 09:27 Merch Update • 12:47 Educational Materials • 25:45 Structure/Org Chart • 30:32 Pod Marketplace • 32:15 Omniscia Audit Update • 34:58 Marketing Agency Exploration • 40:20 NFTs • 41:07 Payroll Setup • 42:25 Initiative to Support 1559 Community • 53:53 Branding Update • 58:04 Analytics • 1:16:05 Closing Thoughts
Type
DAO Meeting

Recording

Quick Summary

In the DAO meeting, we went over a slew of updates across all areas of Beanstalk, including:

  • New Beanstalk meeting structure
  • Beans of Poker Tournament
  • Merch Update
  • Educational Materials Update
  • Pod marketplace update
  • Omniscia audit update
  • and more...

Notes and project updates

Updates

New meeting agenda structure — upcoming meetings now have agendas — you can find them in the Notion and coordinate with Dumpling to add to the agendas

  • DAO Notion —> Meetings —> Upcoming Meeting Agendas

Beans of Poker Tournament

  • Meeting tomorrow to discuss this topic: 1/22 at 9pm ET
    • Choosing poker platform to use, how to divvy up prize pool, etc.
    • Open call for a developer to come to the meeting to discuss a “buy in” button for the tournament on the bean.money website
    • Maybe an NFT is issued once you buy in and that can be used throughout the tournament as a profile pic

Merch Update

  • Hats are on the way, arriving Feb 8
  • Shirts based on the GenesisNFTs will be ordered soon too
  • Can beans be used to purchase merch?
    • Possibly but there is a challenge with gas fees

Layer 3 bounties just got pushed out

Educational Materials

  • In the DAO project section in the Notion, new videos have been made
  • Beanstalk 101 slide deck has been created to very simply explain and introduce BEAN to people who are completely new to crypto
  • JWW is building a curriculum from 100-500 coded courses like college (beginner to advanced)
  • Landing page video
    • Coming along well, new draft ready by tomorrow

Structure of DAO and a visual org chart

  • We basically have 3 DAOs right now
    • Beanstalk Farms — Beanstalk team members
      • 5 Departments
        • Engineering
        • Marketing
        • Operations
        • Business Development
        • Design
    • Beansprout — grants for one-off projects
    • Beanstalk DAO — stalk holders

Pod marketplace update

  • Proposal is being drafted and converted into a BIP

Ominiscia audit update

  • Given that the Omniscia audit is well underway, and Beanstalk is continually pushing updates to the codebase, we need to think about how auditors can continuously audit Beanstalk as the codebase is getting updated
    • Omniscia sent over a formal retainer agreement, and a BIP is being considered to bring Omniscia on so that they can continually audit the code

Marketing Agency Exploration

  • Have been chatting with a few paid marketing avenues (like PR and social outreach agencies)
    • They could help out with:
      • traditional press and publications
      • social media campaigns
      • marketing campaigns
      • design and creative
      • intros to podcasts, youtubers, etc.
      • intros to institutional capital

NFTs

  • Winter NFTs are now mintable

Payroll Setup

  • Should be good to go and should be able to push out payments in the near future

PODs Initiative to Support 1559 Community

  • We can follow the example of EIP-1559 by donating our NFTs (could also donate plots) to acknowledge ETH’s added support for public goods funding, and this could bring in 1,559 high-quality community members joining Beanstalk
  • Proposal: 1 NFTs and 1,559 pods each would be donated to the 22 devs and contributors who worked on the 1559 update to engage the 1559 update community and show our support for public goods funding and ecosystem development
  • There are some execution challenges (collecting funds, tracking them, gas fees), but we’re excited for this!
    • Also need to make sure people visit the website and recognize the pods (since pods do not live in wallets)

Branding update

  • 3 top priorities
    1. create educational content
    2. streamline the experience (aka revamp the UI and UX of the website)
    3. increase awareness

People should go through Hugh’s Notion training videos

Ideas for more analytics for Beanstalk

  • Adding a “P&L (profit & loss) statement” for Bean that people can see
  • Diamond structure for the protocol prevents us from having a Dune analytics page
    • 0xEvan is exploring Dune
  • Engineering team should prioritize front-end functionality improvements (like adding the Curve pool to the website) over whitepaper updates
    • Could hire a technical writer to help with whitepaper updates
  • Check out the Guess the Beans giveaway!

Transcript

ll right, everyone, thanks for coming. I'm sure a few more people will happen, but I can kind of get started on a little bit of high level stuff that's not that important. I just have a so I do have a new structure now where if you go to the notion there's two places I'm going to put the weekly agenda.

And so if anyone wants to add to the weekly agenda and has like an action item, it's a couple of things you can do. You can dmae beforehand a couple of days before the meeting or you know, an hour before the meeting, whatever. And I'll add you to the agenda. But also I can see if you look at the the actual event in the farmer and in mind meeting in the link, if you click events, you'll see I'm going to post like a abbreviated schedule in there and I'm going to post a detailed schedule in the notion.

And where you can find that is in down ocean and then meetings, the meetings tab which has like a little phone next to it. And if you click that, then I'm going to have upcoming meeting agendas and if you click been on, it'll have a little notebook next to it. So if you click be in Stock Farm's Down meeting, this one is January 20th.

Then if you click that, you can click open and then that will have all the meeting notes. So right now we have like 12, 12 agenda items and then obviously there'll be time at the end where anyone can bring anything up. But that's kind of this gives you a little bit of format of what we're trying to achieve, what's on the schedule and who's going to be doing the talking.

So, so just to get like, that's my, my opening little rant, which is I just said like update new meeting structure dumpling speaks 2 minutes. So I think I use my 2 minutes there. So I mean, it's useful for me to say everything we're going to talk about today before we talk about it. I might just do it this time because it's the first meeting, but in the future, since people will know where to look, I won't have to go over, you know, go over the schedule before.

But I probably just just mentioned this time just to make it more easier for people and good. I can see a few people are on the hour actually on the notion. So that's cool. But so the next item I was just going to chat, we're going to have a been a poker tournament meeting tomorrow. So I just wanted to kind of chat the second about about what that's going to be, where that meeting is going to be held.

Then after that, Farmer Dan was going to talk a little bit about the merch update and how that's going to roll out. Then we were going to these beans was going to talk about educational material, so I was going to talk about educational materials. But maybe these beans will talk about a little bit too. Then we wanted to do is beans and I were going to talk about a kind of the overall Dow structure and an org chart that we've put together that kind of a visual or org chart which we think is really cool.

And we wanted to kind of show that to the community and maybe get a little bit input on it, then be real. Who I don't think is here today. Yeah, he told me he wasn't going to be here, so that's fine. We might actually just push that item because he's not here. He has an idea for email standardization.

We might talk about maybe next meeting, but it's not urgent, so we'll push that then. So Chad was going to tell us about the Pod Marketplace update, then IPO and Shell and Gww. We're going to tell us about the marketing agency exploration that they've been up to. So just a short update on that. Gww is going to update us on the NFA TS.

Gww is going to update us on the payroll and then incubate and Gww we're going to update us on the POD, the PODS Initiative to support 1559 Community. So before I do that and then these beans will tell us about the branding progress update highlight from the branding meeting that happened on Monday and just kind of update the Dow on that.

So a lot of small kind of five minute items, but we'll go ahead and get started. So on the Beans poker tournament, that's going to be a meeting with me, Farmer Dan, be an intern and whoever else is interested and wants to be a part of that project or just have some ideas on it. So that's going to be tomorrow at 9 p.m. Eastern Time.

So we have to do a little bit of a time zone dance because of because of being interns, time zone, but totally, totally cool. And so if anyone wants to hop into that chat, we'll just do it here in the barnyard. And we're going to talk about also maybe Mr. Manifold, if you if you happen to be available, it'd be great if you could come to that.

We're going to chat about different people. We can collaborate with different protocols that might be interested right now we have some people with four Olympics. We have some people from Bong Bears, some people from income, however you pronounce that. And a couple other NFT projects that we think might not only have people who want to buy into the tournament, but also would donate towards the prize pool, which would help us diversify the prize pool and hopefully bring more people in.

So the things we're going to be talking about during that meeting are which providers are going to be best to use, or which poker platforms and how to divvy up the prize pool, maybe the structure of the prize pool, timing of the tournament, things like that. So I won't take too much more time, except to say that if we could get a developer to come to that meeting, just to kind of give us an idea of what the technical limitations are going to be, how feasible it is to have like a a buy in option on the website, on the B money website.

That would be super cool. So I don't know if anyone here could speak to that or could commit to coming to the meeting tomorrow. So we could get into that in detail. But that's something we're going to need. And if we're shooting to have the tournament in February, that's something that we need to figure out sooner rather than later.

So that's something that's my last item on the in the poker tournament. But does anyone have kind of the bandwidth for that or the like fair or does any. I'm just trying to I don't know really who would be involved with that. It seems like we're going to need some kind of smart contract for people to to put like 100 beings in for that to be locked up.

And that's going to be the prize pool, which later is delivered. Ideally, there would be some kind of front end stuff that would show how many people have registered. That would be kind of a snappy, snappy interface. I'm thinking along the lines of when Olympus did three three together and if anyone else was involved with that or had seen that.

But they did this cool thing where basically they gave away their basis for three three together, a super cool and the have some screenshots of it. I thought it was a really nice looking sort of interface that they had there. So anyway, now anyone who's free or I can follow up with people later but might be cool to see who is available for, you know, for help and to kind of get an idea of what, what might be doable.

And so yeah, I think, I think we'll probably be able to help out a lot with that. Okay. Probably don't need to spend too much time talking about that in a group setting, but between I mean, it's not particularly complicated. And given how we already have the NFT set up, you know, it'll just be porting over a similar structure for like a basic contract that'll probably just support by IMS, if you will, and then we can then be represented up by an as big a something that you receive in return for your buy in.

And then you can use that to authenticate, you know, sort of like collab land or something and entry into the poker game, you know, just making that up here. But yeah, yeah, that sounds great. We'll be able to figure something out. Okay. I just. I just wanted to get a quick gut check for feasibility, so it wasn't like he came up with this great plan, but then we couldn't actually execute on it.

So. Okay, that's great. Well, let's see, as a group, we should just circle up on that sooner rather than later. And you know, because it will take a little bit of time given how much other stuff that's going on. I'm sure. Also, if you know now you're you're already making me get into like dreamland a little bit. But if we could have some kind of like NFT that you you get you receive in exchange for your buy in, that'd be pretty awesome because we get people to screen, share that, screenshot that and share it and that kind of thing.

Maybe like that rotating coin that being designed would be awesome. So anyway, we'll, we'll save that for the meeting, but I just wanted to mention that. Okay. So next on the agenda is Farmer Dan, do you want to chat a little bit about the merch update? What's going on there?

Yeah, for sure. Excuse me. So yeah, the the hats are currently on the way. I got an update email yesterday actually. It looks like they're not going to be arriving until February eight. So just some classic pushbacks. They're and then. Yeah, we are if you've taken a look in the merch channel recently, they're also, you know, getting some like boats or some sales for different mugs as well as shirts.

The shirts are made by buying goods as well. I think they're awesome. They're just like the genesis NFT is like the shirts that they're wearing there. So yeah, those will be pretty sweet. Those will be ordered within the next couple of days here. And so yeah, if you haven't gotten a chance to look, we were just hoping to get some like some like sizing polling as well as on, on the two different mug designs there.

And so yeah, I mean, if, if you're interested, just go ahead and take a look in there. Yeah, both of those things are coming in the short term as well and similar set up, just be shipping them out once we receive them. Yeah. That's, that's pretty much it there. You know we definitely I'm playing you know you and I should talk about the potential of adding to the merch store just in the way I've been getting some other requests or people wanting hoodies or like kind of t shirts and stuff like that.

So, you know, if we could put those kind of riff on that as well.

Sure. Yeah, I think that's a great idea. And also eventually if people could. One thing I had to maybe just discuss and see if anyone has any ideas on is the, you know, the viability of paying for things and being would be super cool if like I'd love it if I could buy a hoodie would be in right then just trying to understand like the fees that, like the fees associated with that and if it would make sense.

So I don't know, it seems like it probably wouldn't, but it'd just be amazing if this could be like our first actual use case of being right?

Yeah. Yeah. And then kind of just going off of that as well. It looks like the layer three Barneys just got on voted and pushed through earlier today. So yeah, I mean, I guess we'll have to touch base on that. Mr. Manifold Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if that's the case, we can definitely go ahead and get those pushed out to the Layer three team.

I'm not sure. Obviously, we like to touch base on all this, but it seems like everything is on in the next few days. It's going to be ready to go for those as well.

And we have our announcement ready for that, right?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, Uriel is not here. But yeah, he put that together and it looks nice.

Okay, well, great. Yeah, well, thanks for that. And so yeah, go ahead and head over to the merch section and vote. So we get an idea for sizing some cool stuff on the way there and we'll get more updates as that, you know, as they come in. Okay. So next we have in the branding meeting, we we had a really big priority of creating more educational materials.

So we've been you'll notice in the Dow in the Dow project section, it's been a couple of new projects that have been made. One of them is video curriculum. So we have several people now who are working on a whole series of videos that are going to be like educational videos. So we have them. I, you know, if you're interested in that, head over to that channel and you can chat with the folks in the channel.

It was a DM with with MOD, with TV, with Gww. I'm sorry if I'm forgetting a few people who are involved, but these beings is going to be working heavily on that project too. So if you're interested in that, head over to that video curriculum channel and kind of raise your hand because we're going to get moving on that stuff soon.

Then this was also I know that the zero two Beanstalk I was going to bring Jeremy W Do you want to talk about it zero to be in stock initiative and elaborate on that a little bit?

Yeah, that would be awesome. Actually, that's just because I've never shared my screen in here. I want to try it. So we like one thing that I've been thinking about. I think we all kind of voiced, but think about for a while. It's like how to actually try to focus on those. The full bandwidth of 95 users to like, you know, those that have, you know that working like a curve people, etc. like the full bandwidth those people that we can think about reaching.

And so I maybe a month or two ago I started sketching down some ideas about like a Zero to Beanstalk initiative of like what it would actually take to get someone who's never like, you know, interact the computer but has never actually done anything with anything, a desire to do before and trying to actually get them into being.

So I can really break it down to be as simple as possible. It was a way for me to just try to explain it to myself in more detail, but then also to like talk to, you know, friends and family, especially those who are by no means involved with any of us. It's I started working through like a really simple deck that I was hoping that could become like a thread where we talk through really basic concepts of Defi and cryptocurrency.

And the idea is like, okay, after 10 minutes, my initial hope was like after 10 minutes of doing this, like being stuck one on one, so to speak, you'd be in a position where you could actually then go invest it, like which we would talk about in beans, not one or two where you could like jump in and we would teach you how to actually make a transaction.

And the thinking behind it, it was really very simple excuse. Like the notes that we have here, but like taking a very simple phrase such as this where and this is again, this is not a final version or anything, but just this kind of language where a, you know, being set up as being as a type of a cryptocurrency, specifically an algorithmic, stable, etc., etc..

But taking that and breaking this down to make it as digestible as possible, like through analogies where we, you know, pair a bean with a dollar and, you know, email with physical mail. So again, just at the end of it, the end goal would just be like, okay, we want anyone to be able to like basically spoon feed them into beans.

And again, this does not like, you know, these beans is doing an awesome job on the branding piece, which is, you know, we're targeting a little bit more on the divide. We've got this persona of this person, this like that curriculum and then to dumplings point, you know, we started to kind of expand more on like what the videos would actually look like.

This is something that actually came up a few months ago during one of the very early DAO meetings we were talking about like, how do we get how do we feel confident, like onboarding people, how do we develop a series of classes for people to feel like they're advancing and making sure that they're getting the right content? Like, you know, curious.

And the previous community has like so much thinking in how do we actually take as much of that as possible and like make sure it's accurate and push into the community. And so that I think this curriculum that you just that we're that we're thinking about now and these videos are the start of like a broader scope of like this coursework.

And so the zero two been stuck broadly in my mind is like something again we've talked about for a long Fricke for a couple of months now, like how do we break this down to make it as accessible as possible and kind of continue with a narrative of universities and classes and stuff like that so that someone and again, whether they're, they're a defi crypto native or someone who's never even heard of Defi can get up to speed with Beanstalk.

Some of this we need to create some of it already exists, obviously. And it's not saying that we need to focus on all of this, but just starting to map down like what this journey would look like. And so some of the thinking behind this kind of Zero to Beanstalk curriculum was taken from, again, that that group, that that dumpling just started where to throw some ideas out for creating videos.

And this is not by no means a fleshed out set. It's just like initially like like what would it actually take from someone who again never heard of Defi to get them all the way to the level of, you know, just understanding impermanent loss or peg movements too? And again, this is not by any means an assigning anything or anything like that.

It's just like walking through the steps of getting there. And so what would be awesome is to talk through these courses in more detail. You know, add learnings that we could have at some point again. And where we need to focus is very, very crucial because all of this, could it become like disaster for anyone trying to focus on it?

So again, it's just more so high level to put that thinking on paper and then publish. Obviously, your thoughts on a lot of this would be invaluable. But even when we get down to like the bottom part of it, for example, like somebody who might be like an advanced expert in the field, like they, you know, there's even a video, you know, where we're actually walking through the equations in more detail so that by the end of it, you know, after you kind of graduate through class five, five or two or five or five, like you should understand bienstock through and through.

And then this kind of layout is again something we've talked about in the community for a while where ideally we can say like, okay, a true shepherd or somebody who we're going to help, somebody who we want in the community talking to, you know, newcomers and stuff like that has some kind of designation and we know that they've gone through all of these courses, etc., so we can use it for a bunch of different purposes.

Again, it's not it's not fully fleshed out. The idea is just fairly, fairly on paper. But just wanted to show you guys with this kind of very high level thinking was about obviously get everyone's thoughts, everyone to tear it apart, break it apart, you know, tell us it's garbage and we'll just do the whole spreadsheet. But just wanted to share kind of high level what that looks like.

And again, I we've had a bit of conversation about it, but I think it's like very important that we down the road when we want to focus on like the non defi users from, like from like an outreach perspective and stuff like that. Again, not saying that's the target in the near term, but down the road, it's just going to be helpful for us to be able to tie all this narrative back together.

So anyway, that's just a quick snapshot of it. Everyone's thoughts would be great and sorry for the long winded explanation.

Sure, Jane. I mean, that's the first I've seen. This spreadsheet looks super cool. I think that I'd be happy to open it up and see what other people think.

Hi, guys. I think. Can you hear me? Can everyone hear me?

Yeah, we can hear you.

Yeah. I think what you know is that it was great, especially with the with the highway system, where anyone, anyone can come in anywhere and then join and that highway and get the educational course that they want. And one of the things that we were discussing yesterday was thinking, where do we want to focus? So like which which courses or which material do we think is is the one that we start with and then and then went back to the rest.

And after that I looked into the proposal for the landing video that will see. And these things are working about this. We have a chat yesterday and he briefed me or got me up to date with it. And I think there's a lot of great work happening, happening there. And the way that I'm thinking about it is when I joined the community a month ago, all of my thinking was going towards how do we make this stuff more efficient?

And the motive of being like, you know, listening to the conversation, getting it. I understand that our target is growth right now. So it's not efficiency is getting more people on board and to go it together and Wolfie seems that has a good amount of thinking and with a script that is working on that landing page. And what I'm thinking is do we want to think of a unified message?

And then use that in different channels so that now what they're thinking about is how do we get someone to convert, you know, so you have a follower and how do we convert that follower into, into a user or into to being it? So if we got that, I'm thinking and we decide this is this is the message that we want, we want to deliver, and then we can start rephrasing it into different channels with different content.

So the same message we do the curriculum for this is how it starts branding, Twitter threads, blog posts, etc., etc., etc. But we have the same message which is focused on how can we convert the day to the user or someone who doesn't know anything about it and switch? That does not make sense, I think.

I think that makes sense. And actually, I think this is I think these beans is actually really nailing this on the branding work that he's tackling. And we actually did chat about this yesterday. I think it him these beans in a sweet red beans have put a ton of work in this and talked to the community. And these beans I'm not I'm not sure not to put you on the spot or anything or I think you're going to talk about it later.

But I know from like a tone in voice, for example, like again, they put in a ton of hours behind this. So like even for example, the whole curriculum that we just walk through, none of this would ever be done, like from a content or creative perspective with, you know, without ever the whole creative team controlling all that.

Right. So I think like I think that is actually in the works, which is great news. But these beads, I don't know if you want to chime in.

Hey, yeah. No, that's definitely a good question. That would probably make sense. I mean, that's a that's definitely a great idea. It's not and nothing is ironed out just as far as like a uniform message for when we start, I guess, the discovery process for the user. A quick update on the landing page video, though, because that might be something good to talk about later on that topic.

So we'll see. And Wild Dart, they've been doing a great job. Ariel has been helping a ton with editing some of the the content and the material for it. And hopefully we're going to try to do another draft by tomorrow. We're thinking because they're pretty pressed for time as far as getting their animator, there is not going to be like a full official Beanstalk visual identity set from when they needed to start the video.

So we're thinking of actually making that video kind of like an unofficial community created project that way puts a little bit less pressure on them and they don't need to make it completely on brand. With Beanstalk, they can kind of make it a little bit more, you know, it's kind of like a one off community thing. We definitely want to get a little bit of feedback on that from the community though.

If you are okay with that, just be just knowing with like the timelines and things like that.

My take on it would be that I think getting it out, getting it as long as it meets our standards, it might not mean 100% of like the new branding type of requirements or whatever, but like getting out a little bit of content just to get some video out there is probably good. Yeah, I would just think that, you know, trying to push for a little bit sooner as opposed to I'd like to it'd be great to have something sooner rather than later in my, in my eyes.

Yeah. No, for sure. That's kind of why we're thinking like just to make it a bit more unofficial. And that way we can have some type of video to show on the socials. That's kind of the aim of it now. But yep, that's pretty much just the update as far as that page or that video goes.

So these means next. I wanted to if it was a chance, I wanted to see if you could share. Do you are you able to share your screen? Because I wonder if you could show the the org chart and just say we're going to flesh it out a little bit more. But I think that that can be a really helpful thing.

Maybe we put on the notion, I think that it just helps people kind of like understand who is in, you know, what department. And I think that was like a breakthrough moment for us once we put it together. So wanted to see if maybe you could just sort of give people a, like a taste of it so that maybe you could maybe we could do it later.

Also, then if people said, Oh, you know, I really shouldn't be in that department, or I think maybe, you know, it might just help people to see it and.

Understand them for sure. I just started but apologies community for the kids drawings. It's still a work in progress. As you can see the sketches.

Just loaded for me. This is all elsewhere in the notion, but it just sort of helps to have things laid out. I think some days you could get us through it a little bit and oh yeah, okay, yeah.

So just because right now being stuck farms so I guess to kind of go through, we kind of have like $3 right now in this discussion. We have the Beanstalk Farms now and sorry if this is a little bit redundant for people who've been here longer, but the Beanstalk Farms now is just the Dow that's trying to help support Beanstalk and and move product and all that and all that stuff.

The bean sprout that's run by Mr. Manifold, these are like the one off projects and the one on proposals that people can do things like the lady through brownies and then the actual Beanstalk doll, just the regular being sucked out. These are all the stockholders. And so what we as we're just onboarding a ton of people into the Beanstalk Farms now because we need to just we need to hire, we need people.

We want to kind of make sure everything was fully organized and cleaned up so that as we're onboarding people we know exactly right where to put them and which department they would go to and who they could go to to help them through the hiring process, etc., etc.. And we have kind of these five main departments. So we're thinking the design department or the marketing department, operations, engineering and stuff.

And obviously this is not final. So if anyone has feedback or is like, yeah, just like what Dumpling said, I want to be in this department versus that one. You're not really limited to your department, but it is nice to kind of have your home. So that way we know which circles we can work in. Yeah, yeah. We kind of just since we're small enough, we literally listed out everyone was hired on here.

But yeah, I don't know if there's anything else.

Yeah, no, I think that's about it. That's about enough. It's just like we're we're trying to get organized here. We're trying to figure out who, you know, should be think that everyone should have at least like a weekly check in with, you know, they're sort of department head or whoever is closest to, you know, whoever they're working with.

And this just helps us sort of organize it like, you know, between people saying, oh, okay, like, you know, it may be that there's some people on here that you never have contact with, and that's okay if they're outside of your circle. But if they're in your circle, we should probably be in touch with them or at least aware of, you know, what they're what they're doing, what they're up to.

And just just helps kind of overall, I think, to get a visual at a high level. So, well, we'll clean this up if you have any thoughts or concerns or anything like that, just, just kind of let us know. We just kind of wanted to just show it, sure enough. Okay, let's cut to the schedule here. So I'm going to push the email thing about the emails idea for email standardization.

We'll probably talk about next week. We have Silo Chad. This looks like we don't I just wanted to get maybe people. Yes. Would you mind giving a positive marketplace update if anyone else. Sure. If be interested here. Maybe. Maybe they want to go ahead. Sure. I'm not sure if there are. If not, we can go ahead. Go on.

Still them. I. Yeah. No I don't see. I mean you're still not you're wrapping things up on the marketplace side. You know, it will require a bit to to be incorporated into the contract. And so, you know, we would say maybe within a week we can expect to get that proposal, uh, you know, either at least a draft live or perhaps even the formal on chain bit.

That's, that's kind of on the immediate horizon. Now from a down perspective, we do need to draft that proposal, although my understanding is that Austin and E Rail have done a good job of getting that started and not sure if Austin, you can just comment on the status of the documents and whether or not it will be easy to port the current content into like a budget, not a budget, a debt proposal or.

Yeah, that's mostly put together. I think it'll be a lot of copy and paste for an A. We run it by you first probably and then I'll also have to touch up the how to guide once I see the the new UI, but most of the work is done there.

Great. Thank you. So that's in the immediate future and maybe just one complexity that we would highlight is that the initial audit is well underway at this point. And so one of the problems is that, you know, we're we're continuing to aggressively push updates to the code and new commits in the sense of Leo FIB is doing a great job of leading the back end and developing a lot of the more sophisticated functionality that will help you stock scale in the coming months.

But the question is now, how do we get our mission to both, you know, finalize the audit on the old version of the code? But now, you know, how can we get up to speed as we keep pushing BEPS in real time? Because we don't want to delay upgrades, you know, another month until the honest audits done and then they can review the new bits.

So one thing that we've been trying to figure out with them is how can we figure out a an agreement that allows them to sort of continuously audit being broken each of the bits in advance? And specifically we highlighted that we really want it to be done in a timely fashion so that they're not the delay or the clogging the wheel and we can keep pushing content.

So they just today sent us a draft formal retainer agreement, which just, you know, speaking candidly, we found to be very attractive and reasonable. So we are thinking now about proposing another BIP to form a continuous relationship with our measure so that they can they can continue to audit being struck as we roll out further bips. And that includes something like the pod marketplace, which is pretty complex, you know, in the sense that, you know, it's it's not like we're adding one or two functions to the contract.

So it is really important that now that Bienstock is getting ordered, that if each new version of the code and each group is also honored and so this is just an important step, but one that we we wanted to hold off on until how necessary to actually perform the audit. And we we get a sense of what that relationship is like.

But at this point, we're feeling pretty good. And so, you know, that's just something that's developed in the past day that's also relevant and sounds great while we're at it. But this is I want to give you a chance to have the floor for a few minutes just to give any other or I can keep going through our action items and you can maybe take something at the end.

What do you what do you think? Why don't you keep going? Jumping. This is great. Okay, I'm going to going through the schedule and then we'll get to it with maybe the sign off at the end so we can get a few other updates. Okay. So next IPO and Shell and Gww we're working on, they had a couple of interviews or meetings with marketing agencies, PR agencies, so just kind of exploring that.

So I just wanted to see, I think probably JD. BW, I don't think IPO is here. Do you want to give an update on who you spoke with and what the status is there?

And absolutely. Also, I have to give a call out to I think it's chummy and then that being I mean, just money. Yeah. So we have on the on the on the kind of paid marketing side, paid media side in the sense that we're paying them not paying for advertising have been chatting with a couple of people. IPO has had a couple of conversations.

We've had a conversation with a team overseas that actually we like quite a bit. And so we're just trying to figure out like the best avenue to help bring awareness to to stock. And I want to really emphasize that this is not through paid media. Nasdaq, I've seen you have a couple of comments about it. And I think the committee in general feels the same way, like we don't want to be doing this through paid media.

This is more so looking at like what is more traditional PR and like social outreach and just trying to get more people to help us do that. So for example, the team that we reached out to and that we've been that we kind of had one conversation with and we're aiming to have another one pretty soon, like they might help us with reaching out in terms of a PR side and media coverage.

So that would include both kind of more traditional like old school finance press when it comes to like Bloomberg and CNBC and stuff like that. And Business Insider, a little closer to Web three by, you know, talking to outlets like Coindesk. And they have connections and relationships with editors at these publications. So it's it's much easier for them to get conversations going.

And obviously, you know, we would pass all this through place to make sure like, you know, your voices and also the voices of publishers and bienstock, etc., is articulated the way that it needs to be, etc. And nothing would ever go out live prior to that. But one section would be like looking at public relations and media coverage.

Another would be in terms of like social media and like blog management. You even want to go down the blog site. You know, we talked about having them on the site, but so like the social media side, they would help us, you know, with with if we needed pushing things on Twitter and on Instagram, LinkedIn, if we go in that route with them and then YouTube again, it's also really helpful because they have access and they have access to a laundry list of, you know, high volume, Instagram, high volume, YouTube, high volume, Twitter.

And some of it, again, is kind of means a little less, I think the crypto or the defi natives and a little bit more mainstream. Again, just to help kind of look to drive volume into the protocol. They also would potentially help us look into in into future podcasts and work on outreach in terms of getting us into like panels for speaking in speaking opportunities, other Emmys in interviews.

And then there's a couple of other ways that they can help us in terms of marketing campaigns. So we want to go that route with them. They can you know, each of these agencies can provide a bunch of other stuff to like they can do creative and design, but obviously we're doing that in-house, so we don't need to.

But they also have, which is might be helpful is they have investor relations where they basically take a cut for introducing us to larger institutional capital. And it sounds like so there's a bunch of avenues that the this agency can help with this one that we're talking to in particular. But again, the ideas from an organic growth side, how can we continue to grow the brand and just basically get, you know, more help to do it?

And so once we get kind of a better understanding of what this might look like in the end absorption with the community, and then in terms of funding and stuff like that, we're not sure exactly what that would look like, but nothing's getting pushed out. We're just still on the immediate conversations, but hopefully in the next week or two we can kind of wrap up what those look like and then be able to share with the community, you know, what, what what we envision that looking like and how soon that they can roll out but really think from growing, you know, our social following and the outreach to kind of these more public and other

publications is going to be a this could be a very big win for us.

Right. Can you give us idea of like how many you've spoken to when you give us the updates you'll give us? Like we spoke to these folks, we didn't like them for this and this and this reason we spoke to this folks like, will you give us a breakdown like that or what? What was your plan? You know?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. I mean, we have to look and I'll be honest, some of them are not worth even giving an update to the team because they just were conversations that they didn't go anywhere. But yeah, we think once we whittle it down to like the three or four, like absolutely. Because it's not obviously just like I say that we're making, but these three make sense.

So for example, we talked to one I've talked to somebody who he thought was going to be a good lead, but ended up just being like somebody who seems like he's just trying to show. And if he's but kind of positioned himself in a different way. So the kind of the fringe stuff that doesn't seem value added at all, we won't even waste the community's time.

But in terms of those that that we think are value added and we might actually go in the direction with absolutely. Sure.

Okay, great. Make sense. So next, if you speaking of electives, you want to give an update on the end of year, the minting of which that sort of thing?

Yeah. I think the big thing was that the new the winter entities now are midtable and I've been talking and I think made an announcement about that a day or two ago, but everyone should be able to go to the NFT tab now and scroll down and see their internet fees and be able to mint them. And then we turn, you know, feature information about the end of TS in the near future.

Great. I just minted mine and I'd encourage people to maybe just like, throw a tweet out there or just, you know, copy paste them somewhere in the discord. Yeah, it's kind fun to see which ones you got. Okay. Oh, and do you want to speak a little bit about, like, the payroll? We've been getting that set up and you have everything you need from everyone, I assume I just wanted to.

Yeah, yeah.

I think everyone's probably pretty excited to hear about this first. Everyone, thank you for sending over the details that you did about getting payroll set up. Just this for for this first round of payment. It's just taking us a little bit more to finalize and make sure that it's smooth. But then ideally starting, you know, in the first week or so in February through the rest of the quarter, we should have this much more streamlined.

So, everyone, thank you for your patience just as you've been doing this and responding to the to the one off messages that I've been sending you and stuff like that. But yeah, it should all be ready to go and we should be able to put our payment in the very near future. But if you have any other questions definitely about this or anything else that I've been talking about, be sure to send me a DM.

I don't know if there's anything else to talk about on the payroll side, dumpling or probably is or anything.

Probably, probably just that we'll keep the rest of that kind of internal. But I just wanted to let everyone know we're working on it and J.W. Yeah, we thank you very much for your for your help. I think it's very nice and organized and well done, so we're really happy about that. Okay. Next. Oh, think about if you would want to bring you up.

And I know J.W., you were talking a little bit about this with him, too. The the Pods initiative to support 1559 Community. I want to give you a few minutes to chat about that, bring that up to the community and tell them where to find more information on that. Hey, good evening. Do you hear me? Okay? Okay, great.

All right. Hello, everyone. So as we briefly alluded to last week during the call, a question came up as far as how can we engage other communities to broaden the audience and brand recognition of being stuck within defined as here community. And I brought up an idea that Gww and I have been discussing on the side regarding public goods funding, linking that to engaging other communities within defined Etherium space and specifically IP 1559 NFT series that was produced last summer to support 22 contributors and developers that were a significant part of making the IP 1559a reality.

And as you all know, that that's had a significant impact in terms of the monetary value and policy of Ethereum since it was debuted last summer. So what does this encompass? And essentially there were 22 developers and contributors that received funding from that NFT series. The NFT series was composed of two parts. The first predominant part was what they called the supporter NFT, and they sold 1559 of those 4.15598 each.

And so all 1559 supporter nfts, they look exactly the same. There's no distinction between them. So the people that purchased these were strictly purchasing them to show their support and gratitude for these 22 developers and contributors that some somebody of 1559a reality separately there was an additional NFT they called it the patron NFT and that was sold via in an auction and it ultimately sold for 32 eth this patron nft.

The funds were also distributed to these 22 developers and contributors and the patron NFT is distinct. So it is has variation in terms of the image and the features, but in totality you can you can see that there was a significant amount of it that was raised and distributed to these 22 developers and contributors, varying proportions depending, I guess, on criteria that they determined internally.

But long story short, we like to engage that community. We think that, you know, in doing so, we might broaden the audience and potential user base of the beanstalk, and we may not capture everybody. You know, we may not be able to attract everybody. But even if we can attract some, I think that would be a big win for Beanstalk and in terms of raising its visibility and just making it clear that Beanstalk is, you know, stands behind the idea of public goods funding.

So Gww and I have been talking about, you know, how can we do this? So we are proposing that for the 22 devs and contributors who received funding through that NFT raise, we would the community would donate 20 to be an NFT to those 22 devs and contributors and then separately 1559 pods and gww. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is my understanding, based off of our most recent communication, 1559 pods would be allocated to the 22,000 contributors, the one holder of the patron NFT and the 1559 holders of the supporter NFT.

So in total we would be donating to just under 2.5 million pods if this is agreed upon by the community and if there is support from the community and I'm referring to the Beanstalk community, JWT, I mean, I are committed to this as speaking for ourselves. He is going to he's agreed to put forward one bean nft. So we would need 21 more to donate to the 22,000 contributors.

Separately, I've agreed to donate £15,000. And so we would need you know, we still need a good chunk of pods to make up the difference and so we're just trying this out there for everybody kind of, you know, everybody digest kind of we welcome your feedback. But we would, you know, we would see this as an opportunity to, at number one, make it clear to the adherent community and to the broader defi space that, you know, bienstock is a stablecoin protocol that stands behind ecosystem development and those that make it happen.

And number two, this would be an opportunity to engage a much broader user base, many of whom are, you know, regular people on big finance, on crypto Twitter. Speaking for myself, I found out about this fundraise three financed last summer. So that's all I have for now that we thought. Was there anything else?

No, I think I think you nailed it. Thank you. Wait. I think in terms of our contributions, it's a little different, but yeah, that's a small little detail. But so we listed these details out that I think you've just walked through so you don't have to in case you didn't jot down all of that in the the 1559, I think it's the epi 1559 marketing thread, it's within the Dow projects.

So if you guys go to the Dow projects in there, you'll see like the pod marketplace of the AP 1559 video curriculum, etc.. And so further details about that, that, that we just talk to you. That's a great just talk to you. We actually spell out there for you to take a look at and we just listed this out there.

I mean, if anyone has any immediate responses, that would be great. Candidly, thinking through this logistically, I had a to talk with a few other community members about it. It seems like it might be a little tough to execute just in terms of like collecting the funds and tracking it and accounting for gas. But overall, I think it's a it's a great initiative.

And I think you may thank you so much for bringing this up. And I've enjoyed kind of talking through it with you, but obviously we would love everyone's thoughts either now or if you have some time to think through it and then leave comments in that thread. That would be fantastic.

I wanted to this is something that we have time to open up about and I think it'd be good to get some, some feedback. And I think the public setting would be a decent avenue for that if if people have thoughts, we don't have to spend time on it. But I just thought I'd open it up as we have a little bit of time to discuss.

I'm and to kick it off, my one thought would just be that 1559 pods each might be seen as a little bit low once people dig into the dig into the protocol. And maybe there's some way of I don't want it to get too expensive, but maybe, maybe we could reward the people who the original contributors like the 22 with maybe order of magnitude higher than that.

But then the other people could potentially like mint them if they. Yeah, I'd like to minimize gas. You know, I was just thinking minimizing gas. So maybe offering people the ability to like cement them instead of airdropping them or something. And then they're got the other thing we would just point out, just because pods are not like an NRC 20 answered or the NRC 7.0, they're not going to show up in people's wallets.

So we'll need to have a really concerted effort to direct people to attend the website. If that makes sense. But visit the website and recognize their parts. It's like the airdrop needs to be publicized, otherwise it's useless and it just seems as if people had to come. And if people had to come and claim the pods and also be less expensive, you know, people would we wouldn't, you know, we wouldn't have to actually allocate it until people actually came and did it.

And maybe only 25% of people actually do it, you know, so that would be the one the one piece of feedback I'd give. But they're only interested in it if it gets rolling. I'd be you could count on me for a donation, either for NFT or for some pods I'd be happy to discuss. I think it's a great idea overall.

Just logistically, it could get a little tricky. Yeah. And just to comment on in terms of what Publix mentioned about making sure that this is kind of broadcasted appropriately, I brought up the Gww, the artist that was behind creating the NFT as part of the fundraise. Their Twitter handle is at Underscore Carter Design. So they're an established NFT artist.

So my thinking is, you know, if we did proceed with this, we could probably engage the artists and let them know that, you know, as a community, we like to show our support for public good funding. And this is our first kind of initiative along that, you know, frame of thought. And, you know, we could work with that artist to kind of make the make the message known to the holders of this NFT series and the contributors, obviously, who made the IP 1559 reality.

Did you say underscore guitar or just. Yeah, I had asked you to email this message to Twitter showing you can. Yeah. Just maybe we should reach out to them in advance of this. Just saying we're thinking about this, you know, would this be something that we could really count on your support to promote or to, you know, to be behind?

Would you be interested in this, you know, that kind of thing? Yeah.

I think that's a good idea. I'm sorry for the background noise, but I think maybe let's flush it out to steer pointed it to book this point. Let's definitely flesh it out a little bit more too because if if we're actually going to execute, I think that's one thing is it just be an idea that might take up too much effort.

And there'll be plenty of discussion over in that channel. So in the Dow Projects Channel EP 50 and 59 marketing, so there's a lot of active chat in that. And you know, let's keep, let's keep it going over that. But just it's great to have this on everyone's radar. Think about it. Thanks for for explaining it so skillfully for us and yeah, onto the next item now.

So we just wanted to we had a branding, another branding meeting with these beings and I wanted to bring these beings back up on the stage just to say kind of give a highlight from that branding meeting and update the Dow. And we ended up leaving that meeting with three areas of focus that we really think are probably most important.

So these means can you just maybe take a few minutes and for everyone that wasn't at that meeting, kind of give an update and point people in the direction of any notes or anything like that.

Yeah, for sure. I can be pretty brief here. So it was pretty much our final brand meeting to kind of solidify some things. So we have the doc and I would say probably like 85, 90% done. And so we encourage people to use it. It's if you need to know where it is, I know there's the current version is on the notion in the marketing tab.

And what we're able to do is we were able to finalize kind of the brand personality or the attributes of what being stuck is, who we are, that kind of thing. And we're also able to finalize our target audience, come to consensus, and we're also able to come to a consensus on what our next major steps are. Dumpling was talking a little bit about it earlier, so the three main things that everyone felt was top priority was, one, create educational content.

So content to help explain people what the white paper is or to give a friend or just resources for people to understand being stuck. The other one is streamline the experience, which is just meaning revamp the website, revamp the UX and the UI. And then the last one being increased awareness obviously because we're focusing on growth right now.

And so we need to we're taking a lot of time to plan out how we're going to do marketing and how we're going to grow. But I'll go organically because we want to make sure that we're getting the right people and that the paper headed pumpkin lovers, the things that we didn't get to in that meeting that we will be figuring out soon, those are the first thing is we need to figure out the budget for those tasks.

And the second thing being just finalizing some of those high level statements in the branding doc the final 10% being, for example, like the purpose statement, our positioning statement, the mission statement. But yeah, it's, it's available in the notion. And so we definitely encourage everyone if you're curious what Beanstalk is and what our brand strategy is like, go and look it up.

Okay, great. Thank you. So to to highlight those three points, it was the creating educational content. Number one, streamlining the experience, which is mostly focused on improvements to the website. And number three, increasing awareness, which is going to be things like the, you know, the marketing push that we're doing. Even with I have a little project going for for Twitter that Canadian Bennett put together a list for that and, you know, reaching out to people that way.

But also like Gww and IPO and Shell reaching out to marketing and PR agencies like things like that. Great. That's what we have for the for the sort of formal agenda. Want to open things up for now for people the pain points people are having ideas that sort of thing. So the floor is open.

I have a question. I don't know if this has been discussed before and then if it makes sense to think about something like this or not. I was talking to a friend yesterday about Beanstalk and they were looking at it from a panel point of view or a level where they wanted to like, you know, try to make understand how does this look month on month?

And I understand that you can get the data and to run it from there. But what do we want to do? Something like that that is easier for those who are not used to that kind of, you know, reading. So they understand what's happening in the political.

In what format would that be or what specifically would they be looking for?

The way I see it, it's pretty simple right now. So so month on month, what you're looking at is how much the protocol by Indians but you know you've got this much Indians and then you should know about any of that so that that becomes your expense and then it sits on the balance sheet and then, you know, the month that the protocol prints money, you know, this is the profit and then you're paying off on that.

And then once a month you can start seeing, you know, are you going negative or positive or negative or positive. And on here with accounting background that can like, you know, a monitor that understands what.

You're going can probably do, probably query the sub graph for that kind of thing or.

Yes, yes. I mean, that is sort of available. It just becomes like a form of a report. I'm happy to draft something and share that. And you know, if people here's the thing that, you know, it's interesting or it adds more credibility or transparency to the product, and then we can like give it a thought.

Oh, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it'll be with the new bit that past Publius want it end up being net even as opposed to the amount of beans that are printed, balancing out the amount of debt issued. And then it's just as as we grow portion of debt to the size of the protocol get smaller.

Well, you said doubling. It's correct, but not sure how exactly that relates to MoD's concern about wanting to model different things out.

Yeah, I'm think what I'm what I'm talking about here is there's more like a financial report. So what we what we're looking at here is the market cap. This is the currency or the the market cap of boots, basically. But that doesn't give you what's happening on the down level, you know.

So we're just you're talking about a financial report for the Dow, what being stock forms like what is the firm spending its money on? And you're talking about like a financial report on the status of being stopped.

Being stock itself.

So so on that front, you know, we would highly encourage people like yourself, Mark, to write their own thoughts up. But in general, we definitely want bid stock forms to stay away from giving financial advice or financial appraisals of stock. You know, that's where we think we run into a little bit of trouble, perhaps.

Under some unclear.

Am I to your point real quick, I'm not sure. And correct me if I'm wrong, everybody is there. Is there a doing analytics page? Do you think that might be helpful? Like a public? I know we have analytics on the stock website, but to your point about maybe more analytics for those that are interested, do you think that might be helpful?

I think the question that we're trying to answer, like the answer or, you know, the front of it is like no one comes here. You know, the first question is for how does this thing make money and has it been, you know, working or not done? And yes, you can take a look at, you know, how often has it been printing?

How often has it been assuming that and then come to those conclusions or these conclusions, but that you see it in a typical panel level and then you see you look, you know, in this month, this is how much was printed and this one, this is how much that was issued. And then you can see the positive or negative and you continue building up on it.

But then I was maybe I may not be clear or I'm spending it well so I can I can, I can draft something and share it because this one be really advice. It's, it's just what's happening. It's more of like say, you know, we want to get audited financially not not from a security perspective. This is what they were looking at and see.

You know, that's what's happening that is there that is taking more to give out. There is just there's just presenting it.

And I'm about to see is someone else has determined.

I was going to say briefly I think one of the reasons we don't have a duty analytics page is because we're using a diamond structure for the protocol. So until doing updates where we can find some alternative, I think that's what prohibits to do an analytics.

Look at Evan and Usher. Evan's here. Evernote said that they had they thought they could get some stuff up on June but not sure if they were. They had made any progress on that. But I can follow up with Evan on that. That would be amazing. Yeah. Remember him saying that and that seemed pretty cool. So if that could be, that'd be amazing.

Yeah, that would be great. Oh cool. Is just setting the bar your chart that beanstalk is on to now, but that's news to honest. So I would have to find a link notes that you can post it for worse. Awesome.

I mean, there's a whole like dune dashboard community, you know, you have like a podcast and they feature different dashboards. So yeah, please visit a link and maybe some of us could go kind of play around there and see if we can share with some people.

Who'd be interested. It might actually be referenced on the, on the, on the main page somewhere. Sure. Yeah. Quality on it. We also have to have the curve of portal to the website as well, a link to that. So lots of different things we have to update. Well, unless anyone has any other things they want to bring up, I would certainly open to I might pass it to privacy for some other kind of updates and their thoughts.

Sure. Thank you, Dumbo. First off, the biggest concern is that people are not going to spend the like hour, which is a real pain in the ass, but it's important that everyone does it are getting themselves set up with the notion because once you go through the friction of just understanding how it works, it will greatly benefit everyone to operate through the notion and to keep it alive and updated.

So Hugh has done a great job of putting together a series of videos that should explain pretty in-depth how the notion works. And, you know, with all due respect to Hugh, that it is a little bit, you know, dense to get through. So we would encourage people spend time, you know, spacing it out so that they can really focus.

But we would just really encourage everyone to block out the time. They're not that long, 10 minutes or so, to get familiar with the notion that would be our first just item that we would really encourage everyone to just spend the time so that things can start to run more efficiently. And in line with that, if there are things that are unclear or you don't understand or you think can be improved, definitely shoot us a line.

W Is there a place already for like suggestions and stuff for the notion? Or if not, maybe we can add like a a spot for that either in the discord or the notion, but sure. Yeah, I'll, I'll add it right in like on top of the videos or maybe right at the end of the video so people can just jot down their various comments on download a little spot for that.

That's a great idea. One thing I'd mention on the notion is I mentioned in the in the operations meeting, but if you play it at 1.25, I'm speared. That's like I found that perfect as far as like understandable, but also just keeping things kind of kind of snappy in that. But they're really great videos. Just watch them and we can see on YouTube how many people have seen it.

And right now it's not many. So let's let's all try to watch those. We can. So we already spoke a little bit about the pod marketplace that sort of in the immediate pipeline. One thing that, you know, we're kind of curious for people's thoughts here and we don't know what is the right answer. But today we've gone out of our way to make sure that each version of the code, each bit that has substantive changes to the model, has an associated version of the white paper with it.

And over the next two months, let's call it, there's going to be a series of events that are all very much related, like adding the curve to the silo and then adding the colorful to the author that, you know, we could maybe continue to do one white paper per version of the code, but it's it's starting to take up an excessive amount of our time.

And we're thinking about maybe just doing like, what, not a 2.0 version of the White Paper, but like a significant leap in the direction where it's going so that maybe we'll do five or five different versions. Not sure if people find the level of granularity we've been performing changes hopeful thus far whether people think we should keep doing that, in which case if people think it's really valuable, like there's a reason we've been doing it.

So it's not like we were, you know, we're necessarily jonesing to stop. We're just not sure if that's the best use of our time versus doing like a larger update to the White Paper. And this is just something that's been on our mind.

I mean, I personally think that it's well, for me, it's not too much of a problem if you maybe do it in chunks like a larger revision. I feel like that's just a little bit more efficient and especially in crunch time to just be moving product.

I would also cast a vote in that direction. I think, you know, things like links to the carpool from the money site are the more impactful, low hanging fruit that everyone sees rather than a few edits to the white paper, which are important at the end of the day. But I think to your point can certainly be batched.

Yeah, I vote the same way. I think I've been getting a lot of questions from, you know, not everyone looks at the white paper. Some people are just saying like, oh, you I get a lot of questions about why the silo is paying 3% and like how much they can expect to make in the next year in the silo if it's only 3%.

And I'm like, like some the level of understanding is, is much lower. And I think if we could push out changes like that as like I would I would just encourage you to batch it and be as efficient as possible. Yeah. The only problem is, you know, at the margin, that just means that there might be short periods of time where the white paper is slightly inaccurate, which we've tried really hard to avoid as much as possible.

There has been a while typically when a group has been approved and, when we've published the White Paper to reflect those changes. So it's not like there's already like a perfect situation, but this feedback is helpful. We may we may scale back to the level of granularity to each version of changes. And, you know, there's no right answer here.

So we appreciate everyone's feedback.

Ask me also maybe even just on the white paper in the beginning, just like read a side note or something saying, Oh, it's updated every three weeks or something or two weeks. I don't know how often we do it, but it's that way. People, if they're really concerned about it, they can just see that it's like, okay, it was updated here and it's going to get updated at this time.

You know? I mean, the problem with that is we don't know the pace that bips will go out like the pod marketplace paper's one thing, you know, that's probably a simpler integration into the White Paper because it'll be more just a part of the appendix probably, but the curve integration into the silo and all those are sort of two separate, two separate changes to the White Paper.

But we want to generalize both the silo section and the local section to encompass other pools. Potentially, we all want to keep rewriting the white paper upgrade, you know, every time we add a pool. So the point is, maybe it isn't even that many versions of the White Paper at this point. We're just thinking out loud. So thank you, everyone, for your your feedback.

We're, you know, we want to do what everyone else thinks is right as well here. So I was just I was just going to say.

Could you just like, you know, whenever we add a bit that changes the oracle or the silo.

Or something, maybe just add a note at the top of that section and be like, hey, go.

Check out the bit that's attached to the bottom of.

The white paper.

And that explains the changes that happened.

We just add the bits to the bottom of the white paper. Like I think they'd be a lot faster and easier. Yeah, that's an interesting idea, actually. The problem is at some point you get into the white paper just gets abusively long before it's already 35 pages and then you add each of the bits that are probably had ten pages or something to the white paper.

So yeah, we're going to think a little bit more about this, but this is all very helpful.

And doubling the sorry published the white paper is the source of truth at the end of the day for everything. Right. So it correct me if I'm wrong, but I would I think I agree with everyone else that updated and chunks makes a lot of sense. But it is it is like the source of truth for everything, correct?

Correct. And that's why today we've tried really, really hard to keep it as accurate as humanly possible. And, you know, we re read the white paper front to back like we really in depth for the first time during the version edits for 1.6.0. And we did make pretty, you know, pretty thorough just modifications and tweaks but the whole thing has held up pretty well to the point where we do feel like, you know, the bits that are all lined up in the next few months can probably be incorporated either in like four versions of the White Paper or one.

And so that's at the margin. That's probably what we're considering. So unclear whether it'll be two versions may end up putting out or for one four, but this is very helpful.

And knowing that probably this I mean, does it would it make sense at all to potentially look for like a part time technical writer that that probably has felt quite thoroughly.

Working so hard? I promise you so. And yeah, that's of it. Ultimately, we want the white paper to be maintained by the community. But like given how important it has been in attracting the really high quality community that Beanstalk has thus far, we we are committed to making sure that it maintains its really high, high standards. So until we, you know, we're not at the point where it where we feel like, you know, we can hand off any of those responsibilities better or worse.

Right. That makes sense. I mean, if it if it's helpful, I'm happy to just get on a call and just you could probably in general could just talk through high level what those criteria of someone might look like for a technical writer. And then in turn, you know, obviously once you sign off and approve or whatever it is, I think it might be way for the community to help potentially look for future technical writers to help, rather than making that seem like it's entirely on police shoulders just as as an option.

Yeah, I think that that should probably be a part of the job board that, you know, as we're working on structuring the notion a little bit since I it's definitely a job. So maybe you can just make a note three dots and we'll, we'll be sure to flesh that out together. It sounds great. So not to get you off the white paper list, but anything else that's top of mind.

All right, fine. We'll stop talking about the white paper. So the the there's probably not too much effort has already been key minutes. You don't want to take up too much of your time. But the maybe the last thing is I want to thank everyone for your patience as we've been getting together the snapshots so we know it's annoying to get paid a little bit late at work.

Sorry about that. But I do want to give just a quick shout out to Gww, who's done an amazing job to get the infrastructure set up for their continuous on time payments going forward. So this should be like a one time delay and we feel pretty good about the set up on that front for for Q1. So sorry about that.

And thank you, everyone for coming out. Okay. Well, thanks for everyone. Thanks for coming out, everyone, and that we'll see you next week. We'll be doing the on Tuesday. We'll be back to our regularly scheduled anti university and also want to let you know that there's a little guess the beans giveaway if you go on to Twitter you'll see it also, there's a link to it in the discord.

So a fun jar of black beans you can I haven't counted them yet, so that's a fun one. And yet more is coming and we'll see all around the farm. Thank you. Dumplings are good, meaning? Thank you, guys. Take care.

Transcript

foreign everyone uh thanks for coming I'm sure a few more people will hop in but uh I can kind of get started on a little bit of high level stuff that's uh not that important I just have a uh so I do have a new structure now where if you go to the notion uh there's two places I'm gonna put the weekly agenda and so if anyone wants to add to the weekly agenda and has like an action item there's a couple things you can do you can DM me beforehand a couple of days before the meeting or you know an hour before the meeting whatever um and I'll add you to the agenda but also I can if you look at the the actual event um in the like a farmer Dan do you mind meeting um in the like if you click events you'll see I'm gonna post like an abbreviated schedule in there and I'm going to post a detailed schedule in the notion and where you can find that is in down notion and then meetings the meetings tab which has like a little phone next to it and if you click that then I'm going to have upcoming meeting agendas and if you click then on it'll have a little notebook next to it so if you click Beanstalk Farms down meeting this one is you know January 20th then if you click that you can click open and then that will have all the meeting notes um so right now we have like 12 um 12 agenda items and then obviously it'll be time at the end where anyone can bring anything up but that's kind of uh this gives you a little bit of a format of what we're trying to achieve what's on the schedule and who's going to be doing the talking so um so just to get like that's my my opening little rant which is I just said like update new meeting structure dumpling speaks two minutes so I think I used my two minutes there um so I don't know if it's useful for me to say everything we're going to talk about today before we talk about it um I might just do it this time because it's the first meeting um but in the future since people will know where to look I won't have to go over you know go over the schedule before but I probably would just just mention this time just to make it a little easier for people um and good I can see a few people are on the uh or actually on the notion so that's cool um but so the next item I was just going to chat we're gonna have a beans a poker tournament uh meeting tomorrow so I just wanted to kind of chat a second about about what that's going to be uh where that meeting is going to be held um then after that farmer Dan was going to talk a little bit about the merch update and how that's going to roll out then we were going to uh these beans was going to talk about uh educational sorry I was going to talk about educational materials but maybe these beans will talk about a little bit too uh then we wanted to these beans and I were going to talk about um a kind of the overall Dow structure and an org chart that we've put together um that kind of a visual org chart which we think is really cool and we wanted to kind of show that to the community and maybe get a little bit of input on it um then be real who I don't think is here today um yeah he told me he wasn't going to be here so that's fine uh we might actually just push that item because he's not here he has an idea for email standardization we might uh talk about maybe next meeting but it's not urgent so we'll push that um then Silo Chad was going to tell us about the Pod marketplace update um then IPO and chill and jww were going to tell us about the marketing agency exploration that they've been up to so just a short update on that jww was going to update us on the nfts uh jww is going to update us on the payroll and then syncubate and jww are going to update us on the Pod the pods initiative to support 1559 community so look forward to that and then these beans will tell us about The Branding progress update highlight stuff from The Branding meeting that happened on Monday and just kind of update the Dow on that so a lot of small kind of five minute items but uh we'll go ahead and get started um so on the beans a poker tournament uh that's going to be a meeting with uh me farmer Dan Bean intern and whoever else is interested and wants to be a part of that project or just has some ideas on it um so that's going to be uh tomorrow at 9 00 PM uh eastern time so we have to do a little bit of a time zone dance because of um because of uh Bean interns time zone but uh totally totally cool and so if anyone wants to hop into that chat we'll just do it here in the barnyard um and we're going to talk about uh also maybe Mr manifold if you if you happen to be available that'd be great um if you could come too um we're going to chat about uh different people we can collaborate with different protocols that might be interested right now we have some people with from Olympus we have some people from uh bong Bears some people from uh income however you pronounce that and a couple other nft projects that we think might not only have people who want to buy into the tournament but also would donate towards the prize pool which would help us diversify the prize pool and hopefully bring more people in so um things we're going to be talking about during that meeting are which providers are going to be best to use or which Um poker platforms and Harry did we have the prize pool maybe the structure of the prize pool timing of the tournament things like that um so I won't take uh too much more time except to say that if we could get a developer uh to come to that meeting just to kind of give us an idea of what the technical limitations are going to be um how feasible it is to have like a a buy-in option on the website on the bean.money website that would be super cool so if I don't know if anyone here could speak to that or could commit to coming to the meeting tomorrow so we could get into that in detail but that's something that we're going to need and um before shooting to have the tournament in February that's something that we need to figure out sooner rather than later so um that's something that's my last item on the uh on the poker tournament but does anyone have kind of the bandwidth for that or the like um or does anyone I'm just trying to I don't know really who would be involved with that it seems like this we're going to need some kind of smart contract for people to uh to put like 100 beans in for that to be locked up and that's going to be the prize pool which later is delivered um ideally there would be some kind of front end stuff that would show how many people have registered that would kind of a Snappy um the snappy interface I'm thinking along the lines of when Olympus did 3-3 together I don't know if anyone else was involved with that or had seen that but they did this cool thing where basically they gave away their rebases um for 3-3 together was super cool and the I have some screenshots of it I thought it was a really nice looking um sort of interface that they had there so um anyway now anyone who's you know free or I can follow up with people later but um might be cool to um see who's available for you know for help and to kind of get an idea of what what might be doable um so yeah I think I think we'll probably be able to help out a lot with that um okay you probably don't need to spend too much time talking about that in a group setting but um between I mean it's not particularly complicated and given how we already have the nft set up um you know it'll just be porting over a similar structure for like a basic contract that'll probably just support uh buy-ins if you will and then we can maybe represent that buy-in as uh like a something that you receive in return for your buy-in and then you can use that to authenticate you know sort of like through collab land or something and entry into the poker game you know just making that up here but awesome that sounds great we'll be able to figure something out okay I just I just wanted to get a quick like gut check for feasibility so it wasn't like we came up with this great plan but then we couldn't actually execute on it so um okay that's great we should just circle up on that sooner rather than later and you know because it will take a little bit of time given how much other stuff that's going on sure sure also if you know now you're uh you're already making me get into like Dreamland a little bit but if we could have some kind of like nft that you you get you receive in exchange for your buy-in that'd be pretty awesome because we'd get people to screen share that you know screenshot that and share it and that kind of thing um maybe like that rotating coin that bean goons designed would be awesome so anyway we'll we'll save that for the meeting but I just wanted to mention that um okay so next on the agenda is um farmer Dan do you want to chat a little bit about the merch update um what's going on there yeah for sure excuse me um so yeah uh the the hats are currently on the way um I got an update email yesterday actually it looks like they're not going to be arriving until February 8th though um just some you know classic pushbacks there um and then yeah we are if you've taken a look in the merch Channel recently there are also um you know getting some like boats or some says for different um mugs as well as shirts the shirts were made by Bean goons as well you know I think they're awesome they're just like the Genesis nfts like the shirts that they're wearing there um so yeah those will be pretty sweet um those will be ordered you know within the next couple days here um so yeah if you haven't gotten a chance to look um we're just hoping to get some like um some like sizing polling as well as um on the two different mug designs there um so yeah I mean if if you're interested just go ahead and um take a look in there yeah both of those things are coming in the short term as well and similar setup um just be shipping them out um once we receive them so yeah that's that's pretty much it there um you know we we definitely you know you and I should talk about the potential of adding to the merch store just in the way I've been getting some other requests for people running hoodies or like NF t-shirts and stuff like that so you know if we could put um so just kind of Riff on that as well sure yeah I think that's that's a great idea and also eventually If people could one thing I had uh to maybe just discuss and see if anyone has any ideas on is um the you know the the viability of paying for things and being would be super cool if like I'd love it if I could buy a hoodie with Bean right but then just trying to understand like the fees that like the fees associated with that and if it would make sense um so I I don't know just it seems like it probably wouldn't but um it'd just be amazing if this could be like our first like actual use case of being right um I don't know yeah um and then kind of just going off of that as well um it looks like the layer three bounties just got um voted and pushed through um earlier today um so yeah I mean I guess we'll have to touch base on that Mr manifold um but yeah I mean if that's the case we can definitely go ahead and get those pushed out to the layer 3 team I'm not sure obviously we'll have to touch base on all this but it seems like everything is um in the next few days going to be ready to go for those as well and we have our announcement ready for that right yeah uh yeah no Uriel is not here but yeah he put that together and it looks nice okay uh well great yeah well um thanks for that and so yeah go ahead and head over to the merch section and uh vote so we get an idea for sizing uh some cool stuff on the way there uh and we'll give more updates as that you know as as they come in um okay so next um we have in the uh branding meeting we we had a really big priority of creating more educational materials so we've been um you'll notice in the Dow um let's pull up uh in the dial project section there's been a couple of new projects that have been made one of them is video curriculum so we have several people now who are working on a whole series of videos that are going to be like educational videos so we have um am I um you know if you're interested in that head over to that channel and you can chat with the folks um in the channel it was a DM um with with mod with TB with jww I'm sorry if I'm forgetting a few people um who are involved but these beans is going to be uh working heavily on that project too so if you're interested in that head over to that video curriculum Channel and um kind of raise your hand because we're gonna get moving on that stuff um pretty soon um then this was also uh I know that the zero to Beanstalk yeah I was going to bring jww do you want to talk about the zero to be in stock um initiative and elaborate on that a little bit yeah that'd be awesome um actually that's just because I've never shared my screen in here I want to try it um so we like one thing that I've been thinking about I think we've all kind of voiced um but thinking about for a while is like how to actually try to focus on those the full bandwidth of non-defi users to like you know those that have you you know that working like a curve through pool Etc I like the full bandwidth of people um that we can think about reaching and so I maybe a month or two ago I started sketching down some ideas about like a zero to Beanstalk initiative of like what it would actually take to get someone who's never like you know interacts the computer but has never actually done anything with anything in defy or with crypto before um and trying to actually get them into Beanstalk and really break it down to be as simple as possible it was a way for me to just try to explain it to myself in more detail but then also to like talk to you know friends and family especially those who are by no means involved with any of this um so I started working through like a really simple deck that I was hoping that could become like a thread where we talked through really basic concepts of D5 and cryptocurrency and the idea is like okay after 10 minutes my initial hope is like after 10 minutes of doing this like being stock 101 so to speak um you'd be in a position where you could actually then go invest like which we would talk about in Beanstalk 102 where you could like jump in and we would teach you how to actually make a transaction and the the thinking behind it it was really very simple excuse like the notes that we have here but like taking a very simple phrase such as this where uh and this is again this is not a final version or anything but just this kind of language where you know Beanstalk isn't being as a type of a cryptocurrency specifically an algorithmic stable et cetera et cetera but taking that and breaking this down to make it as digestible as possible like through analogies where we you know pair a bean with a dollar and you know email with physical mail so again just at the end of it the end goal would just be like okay we want anyone to be able to like basically spoon feed them into beans and again this does not like uh you know these these beans is doing an awesome job on on The Branding piece which is you know we're targeting a little bit more on the defy and we've got this Persona of this person this like that curriculum um and then to dumplings Point um you know we started to kind of expand more on like what the videos would actually look like this is something that actually came up a few months ago during one of the very early Dow meetings we were talking about like how do we get how do we feel confident like onboarding people how do we develop a series of classes for people to feel like they're advancing and making sure that they're getting the right content like you know Publius and and the previous Community has like so much thinking how do we actually take as much of that as possible and like make sure it's accurate and pushed into the community and so that I think this curriculum that you just that we're that we're thinking about now in these videos are the start of like a broader scope of like this coursework and so the zero to Beanstalk broadly in my mind is like something again we've talked about for a long for for a couple of months now of like how do we break this down to make it as accessible as possible and kind of continue with The Narrative of universities and classes and stuff like that um so that someone at any again whether they're they're a D5 crypto native or someone who's never even heard of D5 can get up to speed with Beanstalk some of this we need to create some of it we already exists obviously and it's not saying that we need to focus on all of this but just starting to map down like what this journey would look like and so some of the thinking behind this kind of zero to Beanstalk curriculum was taken from again that that group that that dumpling just started where TB throw some ideas out for creating videos um and this is not by no means a fleshed out set it's just like initially like what would it actually take from someone who's again never heard of D5 to get them all the way to the level of it you know just understanding impermanent loss or Peg maintenance too and again this is not by any means this isn't assigning anything or anything like that it's just like walking through the steps of getting there um and so what would be awesome is to talk through these courses in more detail you know add learnings that we could have at some point again and where we needed to focus is very very crucial because all of this could become like disaster if everyone's trying to focus on it so again it's just more so high level to put that thinking on paper and then probably it's obviously your thoughts on a lot of this would be invaluable um but even when we get down to like the bottom part of it for example like somebody who might be like an advanced expert in the field like they you know there's a even a video you know where we're actually walking through the equations in more detail so that by the end of it you know after you kind of graduate through class five 502 or 505 like you should understand Beanstalk through and through and then this kind of layout is again something we've talked about in the community for a while where ideally we can say like okay a true Shepherd or somebody who we're gonna help somebody who we want in the community talking to you know newcomers and stuff like that um has some kind of designation and we know that they've gone through all of these courses Etc so we can use it for a bunch of different purposes um again it's not it's not fully fleshed out the idea is just barely barely on paper um but just wanted to show you guys with this kind of very high level thinking is about um obviously get everyone's thoughts everyone to tear it apart break it apart you know tell us it's garbage and we'll just delete the whole spreadsheet but just wanted to share kind of high level what that looks like and again I I we've had a bit of conversation about it but I think it's like very important that we down the road when we want to focus on like the non-d5 users from like uh from like a Outreach perspective and stuff like that again not saying that's the Target in the near term but down the road um it's just going to be helpful for us to be able to tie all this narrative back together so um anyway that's just a quick snapshot of it everyone's thoughts would be great um sorry for the long-winded explanation sure uh JW that's the first I've seen this spreadsheet looks super cool um I think that I'd be happy to yeah open it up and see what other people think um foreign I think um what can you hear me can everyone hear me first yeah we can hear you yeah um I think what jww has done is is great um especially with the with the highway you know system uh where anyone anyone can come in anywhere and then suddenly you know join in in that Highway and get that educational courses that I want and one of the things that we were discussing yesterday was thinking where do we want to focus So like um who which which courses or which material do we think is um is is the one that we start with and then and then we embed to the rest and after that um I looked into the proposal for the landing video uh that we'll see and and these beings are working about this being where the chat yesterday and he briefed me or got me up to date with it and I think there's a lot of great work happening happening there and the way that I'm thinking about it is um when I joined uh the community a month ago all of my thinking was going towards how do we make you know Beanstalk more efficient and The more I've been like you know listening to the composition getting it I understand that our Target is growth right now so it's not efficiency it's getting more people onboarded and and to grow growing together and Wolfie seems but he has done a good amount of thinking in it with a script that is working on on that landing page and and what I'm thinking is do we want to think of a unified message and then use that in different channels so right now what they're thinking about is how do we get someone to convert you know so you have a follower and how to convert that follower into into a user or into a business user so if we get that amount of thinking and we decide this is this is the message that we wanna we wanna deliver and then we can start rephrasing it into different uh Channels with different content so the same message we do curriculum for this is how it starts the landing page Twitter threads blog posts etc etc but we have the same message which you know is focused on how can we convert the day-to-day user or someone who doesn't know anything about it and switch that does that make sense Matt I think I think that makes sense and actually I think this is I think these beans is actually really nailing this on the The Branding work that he's tackling um and we actually did chat about this yesterday I think if they've him these beans and and um sweet red beans have put a ton of work in this and talk to the community and these beans I'm not I'm not sure not to put you on the spot or anything or I think you're going to talk about it later but I know from like a tone-in voice for example like again they put in a ton of hours behind this so like even for example the whole curriculum that we just walked through none of this would ever be done like from a Content or creative perspective with you know without ever the whole creative team controlling all that right um so I think like I think that is actually in the works which is great news but these beads I don't know if you want to chime in hey yeah um no that's uh definitely good question um that would probably make sense I mean that's a that's definitely a great idea it's not nothing is ironed out uh just quite yet as far as like a uni uniform message um for when we start I guess the discovery process for the user um a quick update on the landing page video though because that might be something good to talk about while we're on that topic um so Wolfie and wildheart they've been doing a great job um e-real has been helping a ton with editing some of the the content and the material for it and hopefully we're gonna try to do another draft by tomorrow um we're thinking because uh they're pretty pressed for time as far as getting their animator um there's not going to be like a full official Beanstalk visual identity uh set um from when they needed to start the video so we're thinking of actually um making that video kind of like an unofficial Community created project that way it puts a little bit less pressure on them and um they don't need to make it completely on brand with Beanstalk they can kind of make it a little bit more uh you know it's kind of like a one-off community thing um definitely wanted to get a little bit of feedback on that from the community though if you all are okay with that just be just knowing with like the the timelines and things like that um my take on it would be that I think getting it out yeah getting it as long as it meets our standards it might not meet 100 of like the new branding type of requirements or whatever but like getting out a little bit of content just to get some video out there it's probably good um yeah I would just think that you know trying to push for a little bit sooner as opposed to um you know I'd like to it'd be great to have something sooner rather than later in my in my eyes yeah no for sure that's kind of why we're thinking like uh just to make it a bit more unofficial and that way we can have some type of video to share on the socials um that's kind of the aim of it now but yep that's pretty much just the update as far as that page or that video goes um so these beans next I wanted to if it was a chance um uh I wanted to see if you could share uh do you are you able to share your screen because I wonder if you could show the the org chart and just obviously we're going to flesh it out a little bit more but I think that that could be a really helpful thing maybe we put on the notion um you know I think that it just helps people kind of like understand who is in you know what department and I think that was like a breakthrough moment for us once we put it together so I wanted to see if maybe you could just sort of give people a like a taste of it that maybe you could maybe we could uh let's see it later also then if people said oh you know I really shouldn't be in that department or I think maybe you know it might just um help people to see it and uh I understand yeah no for sure I just shared it um but apologies Community for the crude drawings it's it's still a work in progress as you can see the sketches [Music] okay it just loaded for me this is all elsewhere in the notion but it just sort of helps to have things laid out I think so uh days you could cut us through it a little bit and oh yeah okay um yeah so just because right now uh Beanstalk Farms so I guess to kind of go through we we kind of have like three dials right now in this Discord we have the Beanstalk Farms doll um and sorry if this is a little bit redundant for people who have been here a bit longer but um the Beanstalk Farms that was just the dial that's trying to help support Beanstalk and and move product and all the and all that stuff uh the bean sprout that's run by Mr manifold these are like the one-off projects and the one-off proposals that people can do things like the layer 3 bounties and then the actual Beanstalk Dow just the regular beans locked out these are all the stockholders um and so what we do as we're just onboarding a ton of people into the Beanstalk Farms now uh because we need to just we need to hire we need people um we wanted to kind of make sure everything was fully organized and cleaned up so that as we're on onboarding people we know exactly right up where to put them in uh which department they would go to and who they could go to to help them through the hiring process et cetera et cetera and um we have kind of these um five main departments that we're thinking um the design Department the marketing department operations engineering and Biz Dev and obviously this is not uh final so if any anyone has feedback or is like yeah just like with dumpling said oh I want to be in this department versus that one you're not really limited to your department but it is nice to kind of have your home so that way uh we know which circles we can work in um but yeah we kind of just since we're small enough we literally listed out everyone was hired on here but uh dumpling yeah I don't know if there's anything else yeah no I think that's about that's about enough it's just like we're we're trying to get organized here we're trying to figure out who um you know should be I think that everyone should probably have at least like a weekly check-in with um you know their sort of department head or whoever's closest to you know whoever they're working with um and this just helps us sort of organize it like you know between people saying oh okay like you know it may be that there's some people on here that you never have contact with and that's okay if they're outside of your circle but if they're in your circle we should probably be in touch with them or at least aware of you know what they're um what they're doing what they're up to and just just helps kind of overall I think to get a visual um at a high level so we'll we'll clean this up if you have any um thoughts or concerns or anything like that just just kind of let us know um but just kind of wanted to um just show it show it off um okay let's uh foreign so I'm going to push the e-real thing about the um e-real's idea for email standardization we'll probably talk about next week um we have Silo Chad let me looks like we don't I just wanted to get maybe I probably asked would you mind giving a popular marketplace update for anyone else sure if being Troyer is here maybe maybe they want to go ahead sure not sure if they are if not we can go ahead don't want to steal them uh yeah no I don't see Bean dryer so what we're wrapping things up on the Pod Marketplace side uh you know it will require a bip to to be incorporated into the Beanstalk contract and so you know we would say maybe within a week we can expect to get that proposal uh you know either at least a draft live or perhaps even the formal on-chain dip um that's that's kind of on the immediate Horizon now from a down perspective we do need to draft that proposal although my understanding is that Austin and e-real have done a good job of getting that started I'm not sure if Austin you can just comment on the status of the documents and whether or not it will be easy to Port the current content into like a budget not a budget a bit proposal uh yeah that's mostly put together I think it'll be a lot of copy and paste we'll want to run it by you first probably and then uh I'll also have to touch up the how-to guide once I see the the new UI but most of the work is done there great thank you so that's in the immediate future and maybe just one complexity that we would highlight uh is that the initial audit is well underway at this point and so one of the problems is that you know we're we're continuing to aggressively push updates to the code and new commits uh in the sense of uh Leo FIB is doing a great job of leading the back end uh and developing a lot of the more sophisticated functionality that will help you start scale in the coming months but the question is now how do we get omniscient of both you know finalize the audit on the old version of the code but now you know how can we get up to speed as we keep pushing bips in real time because we don't want to delay upgrades you know another month until the initial audit's done and then they can review the new bips so one thing that we've been trying to figure out with them is how can we figure out a an agreement that allows them to sort of continuously audit Beanstalk in each of the bips in advance and specifically we highlighted that we really want it to be in a timely fashion so that they're not the delay or the clogging the wheel and we can keep pushing content so they just today sent us a draft formal retainer agreement which just you know speaking candidly we found to be very attractive and reasonable so we are thinking now about proposing another bip uh to fund like the continuous relationship with omniscia so that um they can they can continue to audit being stuck as we roll out further bips and that includes something like the Pod Marketplace which is pretty complex um you know in in the sense that you know it's it's not like we're adding one or two functions to the contract so it is really important that now that beamstock is getting audited that each each new version of the code in each dip uh is also audited so this is just uh an important step but one that we we wanted to hold off on until Amnesia started to actually perform the audit and we we get a sense of what that relationship is like but at this point we're feeling pretty good and so uh you know that's just uh something that's developed in the past day that's also relevant okay that sounds great um while we're at a pool place is there any um I wanted to give you a chance to have the floor for a few minutes just to give any other or I can keep going through our action items and you can maybe take something at the end what do you think why don't you keep going jumping this is great okay I'm going to keep going throughout the schedule and then we'll get Publius uh maybe the sign off at the end so we can get a few other updates um okay so next yeah oh um IPO and chill and jww we're working on they had a couple of interviews uh or meetings with marketing agencies PR agencies um so just kind of exploring that so I just wanted to see I think probably uh jww I don't think IPO is here so do you want to give an update on who you spoke with and what the status is there absolutely um also I have to give a call out to I think it's chummy and that then that being I mean just money um yeah so we've on the on the on the kind of paid marketing side paid media side uh in the sense that we're paying them not paying for advertising um have been chatting with a couple people um IPOs had a couple conversations we've had a conversation with a team overseas that actually we like quite a bit um and so we're just trying to figure out like the best Avenue to help bring awareness to um to Beanstalk um and I want to really emphasize that this is not through paid media NASDAQ I've seen you have a couple comments about it and I think the comedian General feels the same way like we don't want to be doing this through paid media this is more so looking at like what is more traditional PR and like social Outreach and just trying to get more people to help us do that so for example the team that we reached out to and that we've been that we've kind of had one conversation with and we're aiming to have another one pretty soon um like they might help us with reaching out in terms of a PR side and media coverage so that would include both kind of more traditional like old school Finance press when it comes to like Bloomberg and CNBC and stuff like that and Business Insider a little closer to web 3 by you know talking Outlets like coindesk um and they have connections and relationships with editors at these Publications um so it's it's much easier for them to get conversations going um and obviously you know we would pass all this through published to make sure like you know your voice is in the earth so the voices of Publius and Beanstalk Etc is articulated the way that it needs to be Etc nothing would ever go live prior to that but one section would be like looking at public relations and media coverage another would be in terms of like social media and uh like blog management she'll even want to go down the block side I know we talked about adding that on the site but in terms of like the social media side they would help us you know with with um if we need it um pushing things on Twitter and on Instagram LinkedIn if we go that route with them and then YouTube again it's also really helpful because they have action they have access to a laundry list of um you know high volume Instagram high volume YouTube high volume Twitter some of it again is kind of means a little less um like the crypto or the D5 Natives and a little bit more mainstream again just to help kind of look to drive volume into the protocol um they also would potentially help us look into getting into uh future podcasts and work on Outreach in terms of getting us into like panels for speaking and speaking opportunities other amas and interviews um and then there's a couple of other ways that they can help us in terms of marketing campaigns should we want to go that route with them um they can you know each of these agencies can provide a bunch of other stuff too like they can do creative and design but obviously we're doing that in-house so we don't need to um but they also have which is might be helpful is they have investor relations where they basically take a cut for what introduciness to larger institutional Capital that it sounds like so there's a bunch of avenues that the this agency could help with this one that we're talking to in particular but again the idea is from an organic growth side how can we continue to grow the brand and just basically get you know more help to do it and so we'll once we get kind of a better understanding of what this might look like in the end obviously we'll be sharing with the community and then in terms of funding and stuff like that we're not sure exactly what that would look like but nothing's getting pushed out we're just still in the immediate conversations but hopefully in the next you know week or two we can kind of wrap up what those look like and then be able to share with the community uh you know what what we Envision that looking like and how soon that that can roll out but really think from growing uh you know our social following and the Outreach to kind of these more public other Publications this is going to be a this could be a very big win for us great um can you get this idea of like how many you've spoken to or when you give us the updates you'll give us like you spoke to these folks we didn't like them for this and this and this reason we spoke to this folks like will you give us a breakdown like that or what was your plan you know yeah yeah yeah some I mean we absolutely can I'll be honest some of them are not worth even giving an update to the team uh because they just were conversations that didn't go anywhere um but yeah we can make once we Whittle it down to like the three or four like absolutely because it's not um obviously just like I say that we're making but these three make sense so for example we talked to one IPO talked to somebody who he thought was going to be a good lead but ended up just being like somebody who seems like he's just trying to chill nfts but kind of positioned himself in a different way so the kind of The Fringe stuff that doesn't seem value-added at all we won't even waste the community's time but in terms of those that that we think are value added might actually go in the Direction with um absolutely sure okay great makes sense um now next if you speaking of nfts do you want to give an update on the nfts the minting of which that sort of thing yeah I think the big thing was that the the new the winter nfts now are uh mintable and um I've been stuck and probably I think made an announcement about that a day or two ago but everyone should be able to go to the bean nft tab now and scroll down and see their uh the winter nfts and be able to Mint them um and then we'll be turn you know future information about the nfts um in the in the near future great yeah I just minted mine uh and I'd encourage people to maybe just like throw a tweet out there or just you know copy paste them somewhere in the Discord you know it's kind of fun to share which ones you got um okay oh and uh do you want to speak a little bit about the like the payroll we've been getting that set up and you have everything you need from everyone I assume I just you know wanted to yeah I think everyone's probably pretty excited to hear about this first everyone thank you for sending over the details that you did um about getting payroll set up uh just this for this first round of payment it's just taking us a little bit more to finalize and make sure that it's smooth um but then ideally starting uh you know in the first uh week or so of February through the rest of the quarter we should have this much more streamlined um so everyone thank you for your patience just as you've been doing this and responding to the to the one-off messages that I've been sending to you and stuff like that um but yeah this it should all be ready to go uh and we should be able to push out payment uh in the very near future but if you have any other questions it's definitely about this or anything else that I've been talking about be sure to send me a DM um I don't know if there's anything else to talk about on the payroll side dumplane or Republicans or anything uh probably probably just that um we'll keep the rest of that so kind of internal but I just wanted to let everyone know we're working on it and JW thank you very much for your for your help I think uh it's very nice and organized and well done so we're really happy about that um okay next um oh syncubate uh if are you near Mike would want to bring you up um and I know JW you were talking a little bit about this with him too the um the pods initiative to support 1559 Community I wanted to give you a few minutes to chat about that um bring that up to the community and tell them where to find more information on that hey good evening do you hear me okay yeah you sound great all right um hello everyone so um as we briefly alluded to last week uh during the dial call uh a question came up as far as how can we engage other communities to uh broaden the audience um and brand recognition of Beanstalk within D5 and ethereum community and uh I brought up an idea that jww and I have been discussing on the side regarding public goods funding linking that to engaging other um communities when the within defined ethereum space and specifically the eip1559 nft series that was um produced last summer to support 22 contributors and developers that were um a significant part of making eip1559 a reality and as you all know uh that that's had a significant impact in terms of the monetary um value and policy of ethereum uh since it was debuted Last Summer so um what does this Encompass essentially there were 22 developers and contributors that um received funding from that nft series the nft series was composed of two parts the first uh predominant part was what they called the supporter nft and they sold 1 559 of those uh for 0.1559 each and so all 1559 supporter nfts they look exactly the same There's no distinction between them so the people that purchased these were strictly purchasing them to show their support and gratitude for these 22 developers and contributors that um some made eip1559 a reality separately there was an additional nft they called it the patron nft and that was sold via an auction and It ultimately sold for 32 eth this Patron nft the funds were also distributed uh to these 22 developers and contributors and the patron nft is distinct so it is has variation in terms of the image and um with the features um but um in totality uh you can you can see that there was a significant amount of heat that was raised and distributed to these uh 22 developers and contributors varying proportions depending I guess on criteria that they determined internally um but long story short we'd like to engage that Community we think that um you know in doing so we might uh broaden the audience and uh potential user base of Beanstalk and we may not capture everybody you know we may not be able to attract everybody but even if we can attract some um I think that would be a big win for Beanstalk and in terms of raising its visibility and um just making it clear that Beanstalk is you know stands behind the idea of public goods funding so um jww and I have been talking about you know how can we do this so we are proposing that for the 22 devs and contributors uh who receive funding through that nft raise we would um the community would donate 22 being nfts to those 22 devs and contributors and then separately 1559 pods uh and jww correct me if I'm wrong but this is my understanding based off of our most recent communication 1559 pods would be allocated to the 22 dozen contributors the one holder of the patron nft and the 1559 holders of the supporter nft so in total we would be donating to just under 2.5 million pods if this is agreed upon by the community and if there's support from the community and I'm referring to the Beanstalk community um JW and I are committed to this us speaking for ourselves he is going to uh he's agreed to put forward one being nft uh so we would need 21 more um to donate to the 22 devs and contributors separately I've agreed to donate 15 000 pods and so we would need you know we'd still need a good chunk of PODS to make up the difference and so we're just throwing this out there for everybody's kind of you know everybody digests kind of we welcome your feedback but we would you know we would see this as an opportunity to number one um make it clear to the ethereum community and to the broader defy space that you know Beanstalk is a stable coin protocol that stands behind um ecosystem development and those that make it happen and number two this would be an opportunity to engage a much broader user base many of whom are you know regular people on the Finance on crypto Twitter speaking for myself I found out about this fundraise 3 Finance last summer so um that's all I have for now jww was there anything else no I think I think you nailed it syncubate um I think uh in terms of our contributions it's a little different but yeah that's a small little detail but um so we we listed these details out that think you may just walked through so you don't have to in case you didn't jot down all of that in the um the 1559 I think it's the EP 1559 marketing thread um it's within the Dow projects so if you guys go to the Dow projects in that you'll see like the Pod Marketplace of the ep1559 video curriculum Etc and so further details about that that we just talked here that think about just talked to we actually spell out there for you to take a look at um and we just listed this out there I mean if anyone has any immediate responses that would be great um candidly thinking through this logistically uh I had a chance to talk with a few other community members about it it seems like it might be a little tough to to execute just in terms of like collecting the funds and tracking it accounting for gas but overall I think it's a it's a great initiative and thanks thank you babe thank you so much for bringing this up and I've enjoyed kind of talking through it with you but obviously we would love everyone's thoughts either now or if you have some time to think through it and then leave comments in that thread that would be fantastic wanted to this is something that we have time to open up uh about and I think it'd be good to get some uh some feedback and I think the public setting would be a you know a decent uh Avenue for that if if people have thoughts we don't have to spend time on it but I just thought I'd open it up um because we have a little bit of time to discuss um and to kick it off my one thought would just be that 1559 pods each might be seen as a little bit low once people dig into the um dig into the protocol and maybe there's some way of um I don't want it to get too expensive but maybe maybe we could reward the people who the original contributors like the 22 um you know with maybe an order of magnitude higher than that but then the other people could potentially like mint them if they yeah I'd like to minimize gas you know I was just thinking minimizing gas so maybe offering people the ability to like to Mint them instead of air dropping them uh or you know something come off and then yeah the other thing we would just point out is because pods are not like an erc20 asset or an ERC 721 they're not going to show up in people's wallets so we'll need to have a really concerted effort to direct people to attend the website if that makes sense but it does visit the website and recognize their pause so it's like the the airdrop needs to be publicized otherwise it's useless and it just seems as if people had to come and if people had to come and claim the pods it'd also be less expensive you know people would we wouldn't you know we wouldn't have to actually allocate it until people actually came and did it and maybe only 25 of people actually do it you know so that would be the one the one piece of feedback I'd give but um certainly interested in it if it gets rolling I'd be you could count on me for a donation either for an nft or for some pods um I'd be happy that this guy I think it's a great idea overall just logistically it could get a little tricky yeah and just a comment on in terms of um what Publix mentioned about making sure that this is kind of broadcasted appropriately um I brought this up to jww um the artist that was behind creating the nft as part of the fundraise um their their Twitter handle is at um underscore kitta design um so they're they're an established nft artist so my thinking is you know if if we did proceed with this we could probably Engage The Artist and let them know that hey you know as a community we'd like to show our support for public goods funding and this is our first kind of initiative along that um you know frame of thought and you know we could work with that artist to kind of make the make the message known to the holders of this nft series and the contributors obviously who made eip1559 reality did you say underscore kitta or just yeah um I'll I'll shoot you a man I'll just message your teachers yeah I'm just maybe we should reach out to them in advance of this just saying we're thinking about this you know uh you know would this be something that we could really count on your support to promote or to you know to be behind would you be interested in this you know that kind of thing yeah I think that's a good idea dumpling uh sorry for the background noise um but I I think maybe let's flesh it out just to your point to typically at this point let's definitely flesh it out a little bit more to because if if we're actually going to execute on I think that's one thing versus it just be an idea that might take up too much effort there'll be plenty of discussion over in that that channel so in the dial projects Channel the EP 1559 marketing um so there's a lot of active chat in that and uh you know let's keep it going over there but just it's great to have this on everyone's radar uh syncubate thanks for uh for explaining it so so fully for us and yeah uh on to the next item now um so the um just wanted to we had a branding another branding meeting with these beans and I wanted to bring these beans back up on the stage just to say kind of give a highlight from that branding meeting um and update the Dow and we ended up leaving that meeting with three areas of focus like that we really think are probably most important so uh these beans could you just maybe take a few minutes and uh for everyone that wasn't at that meeting kind of give an update and point people in the direction of any notes or anything like that yeah for sure um yeah I can be pretty brief here so uh it was pretty much our final uh brand meeting to kind of solidify some things um we have the dock and I would say probably like 85 90 done and so we encourage people to use it it's uh if you need to know where it is I know there's the current version is on the notion um in the marketing tab and what we're able to do is we were able to finalize kind of the brand personality or the attributes of what Beanstalk is who we are that kind of thing and we're also able to finalize our target audience come to consensus and we're also able to come to consensus on what our next major steps are uh dumpling was talking a little bit about it earlier so the the three main things that everyone felt was top priority was one uh create educational content so content to help explain people what the white paper is or to give a friend or just resources for people to understand being stuck um the other one is streamline the experience which is just meaning revamp the website revamp the ux and the UI and then the last one being increase awareness obviously because we're focusing on growth right now so we need to um we're taking a lot of time to plan out how we're going to do marketing and how we're going to uh grow but I'll also grow organically because we want to make sure that um we're getting the right people and not the paper-handed pumping numbers um the things that we didn't get to in that meeting that we will be figuring out soon um those are the first thing is we need to figure out the budget for those tasks um and the second thing being just finalizing some of those high-level statements in The Branding dock the the final 10 being for example like the purpose statement our positioning statement and position statement but um but yeah it's it's available in the notion and so we definitely encourage everyone if you're curious what Beanstalk is and what our brand Strat is like uh go and look it up okay great thank you um so to highlight those three points it was the creating educational content number one streamlining The Experience um which is mostly focused on uh improvements to the website and number three increasing awareness which is um could be things like the you know the marketing push that we're doing even with um I have the little project going for the for Twitter the Canadian Bennett put together a list for that and you know reaching out to people that way but also like jww and IPO and chill reaching out to marketing and PR agencies like things like that so um okay well great that's what we have for the um for the sort of formal agenda I want to open things up for now for people um the pain points people are having ideas um that sort of thing uh so the floor is open I have a question um I don't know if this has been discussed before um and if it makes sense to think about something like this or not I was talking to a friends yesterday about Beanstalk and and they were like looking at it from a p l uh uh point of view or level where they wanted to like you know trying to make understand how does this look month on month and I understand that you can get the data and and try to run it in there but do we want to do something like that that is easier for those who are like used to that kind of you know reading so that they understand what's happening in the protocol foreign what format would that be or like what specifically would they be looking for the the way I see it is pretty simple right now so so let's say month and month what you're looking at is how much the protocol um buy in in in beans uh like you know you bought this much in beans and then you issued that they need that so that that becomes your expense and then it sits uh on on the balance sheet uh and then you know the months that the protocol prints money then you know this is the profit and then you're paying off on that and then month and month you can start seeing you know are you going negative or positive negative positive anyone here with accounting background that can like you know add money to that or understand one you can probably you could probably query the sub graph for that kind of thing or yes yes I mean that was already available it just it just becomes like a form of a report I'm happy to draft uh something and share it and if you know if people here think that you know it's interesting or it adds more credibility or transparency to the protocol then we can like give it a thought well correct me if I'm wrong but I I think it'll be um with the new bip that passed Publius won't it end up being net even as opposed to the amount of uh beans that are printed balancing out the amount of debt issued and then it's just as we as we grow the proportion of debt to the size of the protocol gets smaller oh well you said dumpling is correct but not sure how exactly that relates to mods concern about wanting to model different things out yeah I think um what I'm what I'm talking about here is is more like a financial report um so what we're what we're looking at here is the market cap this is the currency um or the the market cap of beans uh basically but that doesn't give you what's happening on the Dow level you know so uh you're talking about a financial report for the Dow like Beanstalk Farms like what is the Beanstalk Farm spending its money on or you're talking about like a financial report of a status of being stolen being stuck itself so so on that front you know we would highly encourage people like yourself mom to write their own thoughts up but in general we definitely want bead stock Farms to stay away from giving Financial advice or financial appraisals of Beanstalk you know that's where we think we run into a little bit of trouble perhaps uh understood and clear hey Ma to your point real quick um I'm not sure and correct me if I'm wrong everybody is there is there a doing analytics page do you think that might be helpful like a public I know we have analytics on the beanstock website but uh to your point about maybe more analytics for those that are interested do you think um that might be helpful I think the question that we're trying to answer like the answer or you know the point of it is like anyone comes here you know the first question is first of all how does this thing make money and and and has it been you know working or not and yes you can take a look at you know how often has it been printing how often has it been assuming that and then come to those conclusions or these conclusions uh but if you see it in a typical p l level and then you see like you know in this month this is how much was printed and this one this is how much that was issued and then you can see already positive or in the negative and you continue building up uh on it but then it was um maybe I may not be clear or on explaining it well so I can I can I can drive something and share it because this won't be really advice it's it's just what's happening it's more of like let's say you know we want to get audited financially not not from a security perspective this is what they will look at and say you know that's what's happening the data is there there's like no more um to give out there it's just it's just presenting it okay I'm about to sneeze someone else has to trim it I was going to say briefly I think one of the reasons we don't have a June analytics page is because we're using a diamond structure for the protocol so until doing updates we can find some alternative I think that's what prohibits the Dune analytics well Evan I'm not sure if Evan's here evidence said that they had they thought they could get some stuff up on June but not sure if they were they had made any progress on that I can follow up with Evan on that um that would be amazing yeah I remember him saying that and that seemed pretty cool so if if that could be and that'd be amazing yeah that seems good would be great uh Publius just said in the dab Barnyard chat that Beanstalk is on tune now but that's news to us so uh would have to find a link not sure if you can post it publish awesome yeah I mean there's a whole like Dune dashboard Community I know they have like a podcast and they feature different dashboards so yeah please post a link and maybe some of us could go kind of play around there and see if we can share with some people who'd be interested I think that could be referenced on the on the on the main page um somewhere sure yeah we also have to have the curve uh the curve pull to the website as well a link to that so lots of different things we have to update well unless anyone has any um other things they want to bring up which are certainly open to um I might pass it to biblias for some other uh kind of updates and their their thoughts um sure thank you Tumblr first off the our biggest concern is that people are not going to spend the like hour which is a real pain in the ass uh but it's important that everyone does it uh getting themselves set up with the notion because once you go through the friction of just understanding how it works um it will greatly benefit everyone to operate through the notion and to keep it live and updated so Hugh has done a great job of putting together a series of um videos that should explain pretty in-depth uh how the notion works and uh you know with all due respect to you that it is a little bit you know dense to get through so we would encourage people spend time you know spacing it out so that they can really focus but we would just really encourage everyone to block out the time they're not that long 10 minutes apop or so uh to to get familiar with the the notion that would be our first just item that we would really encourage everyone to to spend the time so that things can start to run more efficiently and in line with that if there are things that are unclear or you don't understand or you think can be improved definitely shoot us a line uh doubling is there a place already for like suggestions and stuff for the notion uh or if not maybe we can add like a a spot for that either in the Discord or the notion not sure yeah I'll act I'll add it right in like on top of the videos or maybe right at the end of the video so people can just jot down their various comments on um yeah I'll add a little spot for that that's a great idea one thing I'd mention on the notion is um I mentioned this in the in the operations meeting but if you play it at 1.25 times speed that's like I found that perfect as far as like understandability but also like just keeping things kind of kind of Snappy and uh but they're really great videos just watch them and we can see on YouTube how many people have seen it and right now it's not too many so uh let's uh let's all try to watch that so we can so we we already spoke a little bit about the Pod Marketplace that sort of in the immediate pipeline uh one thing that you know we're quite kind of curious for people's thoughts here and we don't know what is the right answer but to date we've gone out of our way to make sure that each version of the code each bip uh that has substantive changes to the model as an Associated version of the white paper with it and over the next two months let's call it there's going to be a series of divs that are all very much related like adding the curve pool to The Silo and then adding the curvepool to the Oracle that you know we could maybe continue to do one white paper per version of the code but it's it's starting to take up an excessive amount of our time and we're thinking about maybe just doing like like not a 2.0 version of the white paper but like uh a significant leap in the direction where it's going so that maybe we'd have to do five uh five different versions not sure if people find the level of granularity we've been performing changes hopeful thus far whether people think we should keep doing that in which case if people think it's really valuable like there's a reason we've been doing it so it's not like we we're you know we're necessarily chosen to stop but just not sure if that's the best use of our time versus doing like a larger update to the white paper and this is just something that's been on our mind I mean I personally think that it's well for me it's not too much of a problem if you uh maybe do it in chunks like uh larger revision I feel like that's just a little bit more efficient and especially while we're in uh crunch time um to just be moving products I would also cast a vote in that direction I think you know things like links to the curve pool from the bean Dot Money site or the you know more impactful low-hanging fruit that everyone sees rather than a few edits to the white paper which are important at the end of the day but I think pair Point can certainly be batched yeah I I vote the same way I think I've been getting a lot of questions from you know not everyone looks at the white paper some people are just saying like oh you know I get a lot of questions about why the silo is paying three percent and like how much they can expect to make in the next year in The Silo if it's only three percent and I'm like like some of the level of understanding is much lower and I think if we could push out changes like that as a like um yeah I would just encourage you to batch it and be as efficient as possible yeah I mean the the only problem is you know at the margin that just means that there might be short periods in time where the white paper is slightly inaccurate which we've tried really hard to avoid as much as possible now there has been a lag typically when a bit has been approved and when we've published the white paper to reflect those changes so it's not like there's already like a perfect situation but these this feedback is helpful and we may we may scale back the level of granularity to each version of changes and you know there's no right answer here so we appreciate everyone's feedback also maybe even um just on the white paper in the beginning just like read a side note or something saying oh it's updated every three weeks or something or two weeks I don't know how how often we want to do it but that way people if they're really concerned about it they can just see that it's like oh okay it was updated here and it's gonna get updated at this time yeah I mean the problem with that is we don't know the pace that bips will go out like the Pod Marketplace bit is one thing you know that's probably a simpler integration into the white paper because it'll be more just a part of the appendix probably but the curve integration into The Silo and the Oracle those are sort of two separate two separate changes to the white paper but we want to generalize both The Silo section and the Oracle section to Encompass other pools potentially we don't want to keep rewriting the white paper to upgrade you know every time we add a pool so the point is maybe it isn't even that many versions of the white paper at this point we're just thinking out loud so uh thank you everyone for your your feedback or you know we want to do what what everyone else thinks is right as well here so yeah I was just I was just gonna say could you just like you know whenever we add a dip that changes the Oracle or or the silo or something maybe just add a note at the top of that section and be like hey go check out the bit that's attached to the bottom of the white paper and that explains the changes that happened like just add the bips to the bottom of the white paper like I think that'd be a lot faster and easier yeah that's an interesting idea actually um the problem is at some point you get into the white paper just gets abusively long because it's already 35 Pages um and now you add each of the bits that'll probably add 10 pages or something to the white paper so yeah we're gonna think a little bit more about this but this is all very helpful yeah and dumpling the sorry publish the the white paper rank is the source of Truth at the end of the day for everything right so um correct me if I'm wrong but I I would I think I agree with everyone else that updating it in chunks makes a lot of sense but it is it is like the source of Truth for everything correct correct and that's why today we've tried really really hard to keep it as accurate as humanly possible and you know we re-read the white paper front to back like really in depth for the first time during the version edits for 1.6.0 and we did make pretty you know pretty thorough just modifications and tweaks but the whole thing has held up pretty well to the point where we do feel like you know the bits that are all lined up in the next two months can probably be incorporated either in like four versions of the white paper or one and so that's at the margin that's probably what we're considering um so unclear whether it'll be two versions to end up putting out or one or four but this is very helpful and knowing that police I mean does it would it make sense at all um to potentially look for like a part-time technical writer that that Publius vets quite thoroughly good looking so hard I promise you uh so uh yeah that's top ultimately we want the white paper to be maintained by the community but uh given how important it has been uh in attracting the really high quality community that be in stock has thus far we we are committed to making sure that it maintains its really high standards uh so until we you know we're not at the point where where we feel like you know we can hand off any of those responsibilities better or worse right that makes sense I mean if it if it's helpful um I'm happy to just get on a call and just you could uh police in general could just talk through high level what those criteria of someone might look like for a technical writer and then in turn you know obviously once you you sign off and approve of whatever it is I think it might be a way for the community to help potentially look for future uh technical writers to help rather than making that seem like it's entirely on polluted to shoulders um just as as an option yeah I think that that should probably be a part of the job board that you know as we're working on structuring the notion a little bit more that's definitely a job so maybe you can just make a note-trade dubs and we'll we'll be sure to flush that out together sounds big uh not to get you off the white paper quick list but um anything else that's top of mind all right fine we'll stop talking about the white paper so the the there's probably not too much everyone's already been on 15 minutes so I don't want to take up too much your time uh but the maybe the last thing is uh want to thank everyone for your patience as we've been getting together the snapshots stuff uh we know it's annoying to get paid a little bit late uh and we're sorry about that but I do want to give just a quick shout out to jww who's done an amazing job to get the infrastructure set up for like continuous on-time payments going forward so uh this should be like a one-time delay and we feel pretty good about the setup on that front for for q1 so uh sorry about that and thank you everyone for for coming out okay well thanks for everyone thanks for coming out everyone and uh yeah we'll uh see you next week we'll be doing the on Tuesday we'll be uh back to our regular scheduled uh uh a t University and also want to let you know that there's a little guess the beans giveaway if you go onto Twitter you'll see it also there's a link to it in the Discord so the fun jar of black beans you could I haven't counted them yet so that's a fun one uh and yeah we'll uh thanks for coming and we'll see you all around the farm thank you dumpling for a good meeting thank you guys take care